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Model Technical and Interest => Flaminia => Topic started by: Caracad on 23 January, 2020, 05:53:44 PM



Title: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Caracad on 23 January, 2020, 05:53:44 PM
I’ve got a Gamma and Fulvia both coupes but am currently obsessing over PF Coupes.

Can anyone tell me if there any right ups or articles on the car in the motoring press.

I’m thinking the classic car magazines or Auto Italia. Seems to be plenty on the Touring and Zagato bodied cars but not the Pininfarina cars.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Richard Fridd on 23 January, 2020, 06:10:07 PM
Some in Classic Car and C&SC past issues.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Richard Fridd on 23 January, 2020, 06:15:09 PM
Also this LMC publication


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: frankxhv773t on 23 January, 2020, 07:18:47 PM
Classic & Sports Car Nov 1992, ditto Jan 1991, Classiccars Spring 2001, and if you are an LMC member ask the librarian.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Richard Fridd on 24 January, 2020, 08:19:40 AM
Also these. I haven't bought the Colin Pitt book yet. Has anyone here seen a copy?


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Caracad on 24 January, 2020, 09:22:54 AM
Thanks all for the references.
Interesting there is nothing recent. These cars are definitely off the radar, reflected by their values.

When I become obsessed with a car I like to collect literature and generally research the topic allowing the obsession to fade before I get the chance to buy one. I haven’t got room for anymore cars.

However I also regret not buying cars in the past that are now out of reach financially.

I wonder what will happen to the value of these Lancias.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Richard Fridd on 24 January, 2020, 10:14:56 AM
A car few will experience. Once experienced, I don't know if Flaminia obsession can fade. The only cure would be to find a superior vehicle, but what would that be? Values-steady for now? Richard


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: DavidLaver on 24 January, 2020, 12:45:09 PM
I've a memory of an "all the Flaminas" article from Martin Buckley but can't find reference to it.  I thought it was this one, but its not...

https://www.lancia.myzen.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=9487.0

http://www.theautomobile.co.uk/april-2017-issue/


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: frankxhv773t on 24 January, 2020, 01:40:26 PM
They are rather off the radar in the press at the moment but I suspect values will continue to rise. I think they are at the stage where good ones make strong money but ones needing improvement are still available for reasonable money. so don't leave it too long. Touring bodied cars are relatively expensive now and once they are out of the price range of mere mortals interest is likely to grow in the standard bodied cars. The real bargain is the Berlina though.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: DavidLaver on 24 January, 2020, 01:43:31 PM

Bingo!!!   And only last year...

https://www.classicandsportscar.com/features/lancia-flaminia-family-last-proper-lancias


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: DavidLaver on 24 January, 2020, 01:55:06 PM
"Farina pioneered a catch on the seat backs that releases when the doors are opened "


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Caracad on 24 January, 2020, 10:52:41 PM
The Gamma Coupe has a seat catch activated buy the doors. Trouble is it just makes the doors even harder to close.

The Buckley Flaminia group test is online and is very good. Martin can always be relied on to keep rare Lancias in the press.

Prices in Europe (mainland ha ha) vary a lot. €20k to more than double that. I have no idea whether that is dealers over inflated prices or difference in condition.

Most of the cars on the market look in great condition, but I guess such an old car could potentially need a lot of money spent in repairs or restoration.
The outer bodies never seem to show much corrosion unlike 1970s/80s Lancias. Made of proper steel I imagine.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: frankxhv773t on 25 January, 2020, 01:19:35 PM
Pre Fiat Lancias had better quality steel and on the Berlin's at least, it is also pretty thick. Parts costs aren't cheap either because you are competing with buyers who can afford Touring bodied cars and sometimes Ferrari owners too. The price differences on cars for sale partly reflects condition because bringing a scruffy, tiered car up to a high standard costs a lot of money. Berlin's have till recently (and possibly still are) uneconomic to restore.  As an example, NOS read lights are around two hundred pounds each.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 31 January, 2020, 04:47:42 PM
More articles

C&SC JUL 2011



Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 31 January, 2020, 04:50:13 PM
and C&SC JAN 91



Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 31 January, 2020, 04:51:17 PM
and Practical Classics Feb07



Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Caracad on 01 February, 2020, 08:55:58 AM
Thanks Charles, I’ll definitely get hold of those articles.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Caracad on 07 February, 2020, 09:08:53 AM
Received my back issues of C&SC. Great articles, particularly the one from 1991.
A much more detailed description of how the car drives compared to more recent motoring publishing.
Wonder why that is? Nowadays you get a long description about the cars history and hardly an mention of the driving experience.

I have been told, that often the journalist doesn’t bother driving the car they are reviewing.

I guess that is your black coupe in the articles Charles. Great colour. I think all the large Lancias look best in dark colours.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 07 February, 2020, 09:55:55 PM
My car is in the 2011 article....MLE139L. I had just bought the car from Richard Thorne, and Martin Buckley had been in touch with him about doing the article. It also featured in the 2017 article on all the Flaminias.

I am biased, but I would highly recommend a PF, if you are tempted.  They are incredible value considering the quality and engineering involved, as are most Lancias, and so nice to drive.....really feels special!


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Richard Fridd on 18 February, 2020, 06:46:57 PM
C&SC August 1994


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 19 February, 2020, 11:32:28 AM
C&SC June 2016

Sedan not PF......I have a spare copy if anyone would like...pm your address and I will post.


Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: Charles Frodsham on 19 February, 2020, 11:52:10 AM
Also Florida C&SC FEB 2000



Title: Re: Flaminia PF Coupe literature
Post by: frankxhv773t on 19 February, 2020, 06:46:41 PM
The saloon in the 1994 article is still extant, just, but my attentions have moved on to a better prospect
at present.