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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: fay66 on 02 April, 2022, 08:15:39 PM



Title: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 02 April, 2022, 08:15:39 PM
A bit of a longshot but does anyone know of anyone with a series 1 Berlina Tow Bar,  perhaps anyone who might be able to supply one, or where to obtain the dimensions?
Watling Engineering used to be able to supply one, but they no longer do so.
I'm assuming a towbar for the Coupe would be different due to the shortened chassis?
Any help in pointing me in the right direction would be appreciated.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: chriswgawne on 03 April, 2022, 12:07:01 PM
We had one on our 2C in the 1970s. From memory one of the attachments was 4 bolts through the base of the (vertical) spare wheel trough just ahead of the rear panel......so completely different to a Coupe where the spare wheel just lies flat horizontally on the boot floor. I think it was a Witter towbar btw.
Chris


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 04 April, 2022, 12:39:09 PM
We had one on our 2C in the 1970s. From memory one of the attachments was 4 bolts through the base of the (vertical) spare wheel trough just ahead of the rear panel......so completely different to a Coupe where the spare wheel just lies flat horizontally on the boot floor. I think it was a Witter towbar btw.
Chris
Thanks Chris, can you remember if there were any further fittings, possibly alongside the chassis rails?
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: chriswgawne on 04 April, 2022, 05:14:10 PM
There were Brian but I can't remember the detail. It was in 1972, 50 years ago!


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: eog on 05 April, 2022, 09:08:35 AM
It may be worth contacting this company to see if they could fabricate a bar.
I have no connection with the business but have seen some of their work and its impressive.
http://kloseengineering.co.uk/about/


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 05 April, 2022, 09:28:43 AM
It may be worth contacting this company to see if they could fabricate a bar.
I have no connection with the business but have seen some of their work and its impressive.
http://kloseengineering.co.uk/about/

Thank you.
Brian


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: oldracer on 10 April, 2022, 11:11:38 AM
Hi Brian,

My S2 berlina came with a tow bar, can't imagine it would be very different from the S1?

I'll take some pictures if it helps.

Ian


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: lancianut666 on 10 April, 2022, 12:36:46 PM
I might be wrong but won't the dimensions be in the workshop manual in the body section?
Clarkey


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: pasey25 on 11 April, 2022, 11:25:03 AM
I have one I took off my white GT. Shame I’m in Melbourne


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: pasey25 on 11 April, 2022, 11:26:09 AM
I could measure it though. Let me know Brian


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 11 April, 2022, 02:30:51 PM
Hi Brian,

My S2 berlina came with a tow bar, can't imagine it would be very different from the S1?

I'll take some pictures if it helps.

Ian
Hi Ian,
I can’t see that there can be too many differences, and I can always check if there are any differences in chassis dimension.
Any photos would be great, can you possibly email them to me please.
Many Thanks.
Brian
8227.  8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 11 April, 2022, 02:35:33 PM
I might be wrong but won't the dimensions be in the workshop manual in the body section?
Clarkey
Hi Clarkey,
I had a quick look but couldn't see anything but I will check again.
Thanks
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 11 April, 2022, 02:36:49 PM
We had one on our 2C in the 1970s. From memory one of the attachments was 4 bolts through the base of the (vertical) spare wheel trough just ahead of the rear panel......so completely different to a Coupe where the spare wheel just lies flat horizontally on the boot floor. I think it was a Witter towbar btw.
Chris
Thanks Chris.
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: pasey25 on 12 April, 2022, 05:09:21 AM
Chris here is the one I took off my berlina


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: chriswgawne on 12 April, 2022, 07:14:24 AM
From memory (nearly 50 years ago!!) that doesn't look like the Berlina S1 towbar we had. Is the spare wheel in a S2 still vertical up close to the rear panel?
I seem to remember that ours had a 4 bolt attachment  through the base of the spare wheel cavity ( the holes here had to be drilled) as well as the bumper mounts........and maybe another attachment as well.
I will keep my eyes open when in Italy as there are quite a few S1 Berlinas in our area.
Chris


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: fay66 on 12 April, 2022, 10:44:30 AM
From memory (nearly 50 years ago!!) that doesn't look like the Berlina S1 towbar we had. Is the spare wheel in a S2 still vertical up close to the rear panel?
I seem to remember that ours had a 4 bolt attachment  through the base of the spare wheel cavity ( the holes here had to be drilled) as well as the bumper mounts........and maybe another attachment as well.
I will keep my eyes open when in Italy as there are quite a few S1 Berlinas in our area.
Chris
Thanks for the information Chris, if by any chance you see one for sale!
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: oldracer on 12 April, 2022, 03:59:28 PM
Hi Brian,

This is the one from my car, looks to be original and unused. I make it 90cm wide.

All the best,

Ian


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: oldracer on 12 April, 2022, 04:00:41 PM
Here's a close-up of the hitch itself


Title: Re: Wanted towbar for Fulvia series 1 Bwelina
Post by: lancianut666 on 12 April, 2022, 05:30:28 PM
Just had a look in my copies of owners manual for a Y10 and Thema and they both have diagrams showing the places to drill the holes to fit the bracket, the size of the bolts, recommended ball coupling etc perhaps the Fulvia and Appia are too long in the tooth for this.
Clarkey