Lancia Motor Club

Back again to annoy with questions, although this one has more substance behind it. What is the general consensus to the value of a complete (aside from bumpers), running, brakes done Touring?  No idea yet if it is a 2.5 or 2.8 or RHD/LHD, but am working on it. Needs sills and floorpans done. Body apparently not too bad, interior saveable but needs carpets.

Advice (probably of the stay away it will bankrupt you variety) appreciated.

Lindsay

14k?    16k?

For one in that condition?????!!!!!

I have some more info so would welcome opinion as value. It is a 1960 LHD Touring. Body pretty good, but needs floor and sills as said. Runs, stops. 2.8 triple carb.  All there aside from bumpers and will eventually need painted as bare just now.

What is it worth? Is £14k realistic in this condition? I hope not.

The price does not sound too far off the correct value. If the engine does not need a rebuild and the brakes are OK this will save thousands in rebuild costs. What is the interior like, again a retrim is costly but refurbishment much cheaper. I would say any restoration project Touring is going to need new sills, I have seen cars described as excellent that have patched sills.
Recently a 2.5 Touring convertible sold for 80,000euro!!!! so in the long run it might not be an expensive buy.  The restored value at the moment could be in the region of £35,000 so you just have to work out the costs to get it perfect.

In that case, to be able to buy it for £3500 or so would make sense!

I'm afraid "making sense " has precious little to do with owning most of the cars we like....

............or you could buy an Aurelia B20 restoration project that is just about economically viable!

but that wouldn't be £3.5k to buy and have all the bits with it!!

Go on Lindsay, you know you want to ;D

Brian
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I do Brian! But am all too aware that the initial estimate of getting it up to scratch might as well be doubled as these things never stick to budget......

Go on ;) .Treat it as a rolling restoration, get roadworthy, and do bits at a time, as you are enjoying using it.Keep us posted :)

There wouldn't be much rolling for a couple of years!!

The sooner you start the quicker it will be :D

Brian
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NO PRESSURE THEN ;) ;)

If it really does run, if the brakes really have been sorted, if the interior really is all there and the chrome is livable then the rest is "only paint and metal" - as such the prospect is no worse than ANY other classic car BUT the result is one of the finest cars ever made there to give you elegant and rewarding service until the very end of time.  Should you ever need to let it go it stands a better chance of paying you back for your troubles than just about any other classic AS LONG AS the mechanicals, interior, and trim are AOK.

...or if its all too much time and trouble buy a mint HF2000 or Appia depending if the way it goes or the way it feels are more important...

If the little devil on your shoulder is saying "accept no substitute" just start looking at every example, for sale or otherwise, and eventually you'll just know it instinctively when the "one for you" pops out of the woodwork.

David

More the devil saying it's £3500 therefore must be cheap for one these......

sorry chaps, am i missing something?is this car for sale at £3500?if so why has it not sold yet?

Well I'm confused now too!  If it is for sale, has a valid V5 and the owner is asking £3,500 for it you should have snatched his hand off before telling anyone else about it. I was under the impression it was for sale at £14K.
The last Flaminia Touring to sell at auction needing restoration (without running engine) and it was a less desireable GTL went for £11K!!
...............who did you say was selling it???????????

It isn't advertised. I came to know of it in a roundabout way......... I imagine I should be snapping his arm off!

YES!  YES!  YES!

Just in case you haven't got the message Lindsay!

Robin.

Is it any more complicated to sort the body (sills and floors) if the panels (presumably above that level) are alloy on frames?

I don't want to discourage - sounds like the bargain of the week.

An alloy bodied car is a step up in magnitude of complexity compared to a fully steel bodied vehicle. The trouble is it is very difficult not to get involved with the bodywork if you need to replace complete sills. Usually the entire structure up to the waistline will be shot through with rust.

Don't be hasty, GIVE ME THE DETAILS ;D ;D ;D ::) ;)

You will need to cut the alloy sill panel below the door as this just covers the structural bits to properly weld the sills as the structure is quite complex, so you will need to be friendly with an alloy welder to do the job correctly.

Have you bought it yet Lindsay?

Not yet. It is quite daunting but at the price...... no rush as its not on the market as such. Will contact the chap this week and go from there. In the meantime, anyone want to buy a good 2000 Coupe and spares 2000HF coupe!

Well, the offer to purchase has been made. I await the response!

Good lad  ;D