Lancia Motor Club

My car came with 'home made' interior door trims etc. Anyone know how the originals are held in place. Any photos I've seen dont show any exposed srews, are there 'hidden' clips.

I stand to be corrected, but I think that the top part is screwed on under the painted top rail, then there are about 3 screws in cup washers along the front and rear edges and another 2 or 3 along the bottom. You can just about make it out in this photo of a 5th series car.

Ta very much. I'm getting some panels made, I'll post a few pics when I have them fitted.

Kevin, the top and bottom parts of the panel are raised sections, so another thin piece on top of the base panel. If you haven't got the alloy strips you can make them up with pin beading, see the photo of the door panel for my pf Cabriolet, as they are very similar. The difference is that on the pf the top part has exposed screws as opposed to the hidden ones on a B20.  Ade.

Here is a pic of the door panels for my B20........hope they help. Ed

Ed,

Could you post a bigger version of the picture in your signature?  Looks lovely...

David

Kevin,
I have a couple of child seats in Lancia Blue if you're interested ?!!!!!   Rgds, Tim

What do the child seats look like Tim??

Hi David
Here's a larger photo of the picture that Ryk Heuff painted for me (He has done several others for me as well - will post these if enough interest)
Ed

What a beautiful picture, are there copies available please?
I would love to see any others.

Brian
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These are perfect, thanks. mine are going to be very similar, except I'm having them done in a black vinyl, with a 'diamond' stitched pattern in some sections.

Sorry Brian, the picture is a private commission with no copies.

Here is another of Ryk's masterpieces.......

Shame, but lovely pictures.

Brian
8227 ;D

Interior fitment is key. One can make the case that the interior is the most important part of the restoration - because it is so hard to get right. We all fuss over tech'l matters, engine bay and the paint/chrome, but getting the right character in the interior is really difficult. A bit too much fabric in a corner and the whole thing falls apart and you lose the period sense. Too easy to have them look "redone" and thus create a bit of distance between you and the car.

I once saw a beautifully restored 6C2500 at Pebble, just lovely, but the interior looked a wee bit too new, too crisp, and the whole car just lost its charm. On the other hand, when done right, it can really make the car whole. So.... take your time, get it right.

Here are some shots to aid the quest: first one is an unrestored B20, with factory leather interior. Lovely.
Second are John Baker's panels, unrestored from his s. 2. The number of holes isn't original, but a result of years of attention. The screw size is important - don't remember which size it is, but its the metric one, where you take it in and out a few times and the hole is shot. The next size up works better, but doesn't look right.

Notice the vinyl on John's. According to some the factory didn't have original vinyl, but I had a s. 1 original interior (for use for a pattern) and John's too both had it. So it varied.

The next two were from cars in Italy - one is a s. 1 someone saw at a meet there (I was restoring a s. 2, and thus interested in the early cars). Last shot is of the panel made up for the s.2 here.

Hope this helps. Fewer screws, small little fellows. No philips heads. 

Thanks GG. Those photos are a real help. I was not aware that there were 'pockets' in the door panels. There are only 4 B20's in Ireland, 2 are racers and have no interior panels, one is being restored and the panels went missing years ago, and the other one (lucky me) I'm being 'loaned' for a day to drive. The owner needs to deliver one of his other cars and I'm to follow him in the B20 and drive him home.
The main reason I never fitted a proper interior, is for the reasons you state. i want to be sure it will look right, without looking too 'new'. I'm also planning on fitting modern plastic srew receivers, to counteract the possibility of self tappers 'rounding out' the holes.

Kevin -

You are welcome. Keep in mind that the interiors do vary by series of B20. For example, the seams on the early B20 seats are located a bit further off the seat top than on the later cars, etc. If you can find an original in the series you are restoring, it can work well as a template or benchmark. Let me know, and maybe I've got some shots for you. Research in this is key ot get all those little details. We sweated bullets just getting the visors right, with the thin seams they had back then. Took a few different shops to find the one with the special machine (which I still don't understand). But it helped to have an older German guy who had worked on MB 300's at the factory - he knew what detailing was. Of course, a nudge didn't hurt either....

Geoff

PS - some shots of 6th series, and from a friend in Italy, that infamous small screw....

Kevin - I don't know what series your car is? - because there are a lot of differences between them. I've got some photo's of what 4th series interiors should look like - but are these relevant to you?  Adrian

Mine is a 4th series, although Peter Harding prefers to call it a 1st,2nd,3rd,4th,5th and 6th Series hybrid with some Citroen thrown in to complete the mix..!!!

Kevin - OK !! - here's some pictures of an origianl 4th series car - let me know if you'd like some more and I'll get you some of mine. But they are different and less elaborate than the 6th etc..Adrian