Lancia Motor Club

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Flaminia-Super-Sport-Zagato-3C-1965-/110789540794?pt=Automobiles_UK&hash=item19cb923bba


Not sure what these fetch......but such a stylish Flaminia!


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Multiply the current £12,000 bid by between 8 and 10 maybe?

My dream Lancia!

Tim

Just gone up to £20K!....and theres 8 days left.......are you bidding Bruciebonuz?!


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This was the one I noted from the Octane magazine article a few months back.......

http://www.anamera.com/en/detail/car/132275/index.html?no_cache=1&ret=63

Not cheap!


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No I am not bidding.  Wish I had the cash and I fear Santa won't oblige....

The grey Supersport that Hexagon classics have for sale previously sold at Bonhams Goodwood FOS sale for £111,500.
There are at least four more for sale in mainland Europe at various prices around the £150,000 mark.
The Octane magazine article sums the car up perfectly, but when I had both one of these and an Aurelia B20 I chose to keep the Aurelia!

We had a lovely Flaminia 3C GTL when we were in our early 40's but we then always preferred our B20 as it seemed to be more 'involving' on the road.
We subsequently sold the Flaminia to Michael Newberry and when I look back I always think we were a little young for the Flaminia. For example we never took the car on a long continental journey (because of young children, work  and other pressures) whereas today when we have the time, I reckon the Flaminia would fit into our life rather well.

Cheque book time? ;)

I was way to young for a Flaminia then, as I was in my 20's when I had the Supersport! (See photo).
As Chris says the Aurelia is just that little bit more fun to drive, but the Flaminia did have a good power advantage, much better brakes, and was a fantastic high speed tourer.
I once got upto 120Mph at Bruntingthorpe, but it was a very hot day, there was a heat haze, so I couldn't see where the end of the runway was and I knew it ended in a grass bank! ... time to back off!
Having owned all Flaminia variants my pick of the bunch would be the Pininfarina Coupe.

Feels like old home day. My mother picked up her Supersport at the factory in 1965, drove around Europe for a few weeks, brought it by boat back to the US and drove the 800+ miles from NYC to Chicago nonstop in 12 hours. Great for long distance touring.

Having driven the car hard over the next ten years, I was tasked to rebuild it in the mid 1970s (photo attached). I drove it for a while at too young an age, across from Nova Scotia to the west coast and back home. Lovely long distance car, but not a sports car. For that, the precision and lighter weight of the Aurelia is preferred. Also keeping those 3 carbs in synch isn't always so easy.

Over time, the rust got the car, and it is now in Dutch hands being absolutely lovingly restored (thank you!!). It always seemed like a later and better iteration on the Aurelia, but the weight and its moderate power (plenty by Lancia standards, but not mid-1960s muscle) made it a bit dated, perhaps.

My vote is for the B20 over the SS, but then again, for going across the country at 80 mph, little was as lovely as the SS. After driving all day, you would want to get back in and drive it some more.

Three years ago when the financial crisis started and the banks looked like collapsing I decided that it was time to invest in a rather more expensive Lancia than I had hitherto owned, before the wherewithal disappeared.  I favoured an Aurelia B20 and put together a comparison chart of all the B20s then available throughout Europe.  But then a Flaminia convertible in really good nick came available nearby at Malborough.  The price was about half what a B20 in similar condition would have cost.  It was an extremely rare rhd 2.8 3c so I bought it.  I have still never driven a B20 but I do have an Appia and so I think that I can understand some of the comments above about the B20 being a “more involving” drive.  Having said that, the Flaminia is a beautifully balanced car that lopes along and is really easy to drive once you learn to relax and let the car do it’s stuff.  Also, one cannot but be impressed with the quality of the engineering which is fabulous. And I have to say that there is nothing like driving around Wiltshire in the Flaminia on a sunny summer’s day with the top down, that exhaust note is music.  How much more would it cost me to do that in an Aurelia B24 convertible?  (about another £100k or £200 for the spider!)  As it happens, Flaminia convertible prices have strengthened rather more over the last 3 years than those for B20’s so all in all, I’m pretty happy with my choice.

I think you bought your Touring a just the right time Charles!
I must admit that however much I like the Aurelia, I was driving a Touring 2.8 Coupe a few weeks ago, thinking how nice it was and that I really ought to own one.

Ade, 

Any more photos of that Coupe?  It looks devine... 

As to the thought of owning one (alas we're into fantasy time now...) I'm not sure I could live with the bulk of a PF or Belina and both the supersports and Coupe are just a bit too flash.  Borrowing one for a long weekend would be an ENTIRELY different matter!!

As for the photo of the red supersports are all those marks on the road from where you'd keep stopping to photograph your cars :)

David

Just to remind everyone, there were also Flaminia Sports as well as Super Sports.

Here’s a photo taken by Roger Perry in 1970 of the Flaminia Sport 3C that we briefly shared. This was car I purchased in Brussels for about £250, shipped it to Roger who fixed the slipping clutch and we later sold it for £850, and thought we were very clever.

Coincidentally this car was last heard of in Portugal in the mid 1980s.   

Colin

Divine and wonderful  indeed and more pics would be most  welcome!I expect bulk would be apparent to the driver of  a flaminia saloon .my PF seems  managable to me  as it is a similar length to my VW van (not to 'flash' either in its current cosmetic condition) do we currently  have many members  who are supersport owners in their twenties I wonder?also does anyone here know what became of the  bumperless light  blue rally spec touring bodied flaminia which was at RTCC a year or so ago?best regards richard

OK a few more pics of the blue one....

and one of a Touring Convertible.

Some more, these were taken by http://www.martinphelps.com/.

The GT is the one for me...  However I'd feel the need to 'scrub up nice' before driving it and would be a bit more self concious than in an Aurelia. 

One of the many wonderful things about the Aurelia was that it wasn't flash - in the sense that it would get a really positive response from everyone.  Within the subset of car enthusiasts it would be as strong from a hotrodder outside the Little Chef as the lady with the Moggie Minor at the garden centre.  As for those who really knew what it was you'd have to keep an eye on the time or the day would soon be gone.  It was a car to use a lot, no need to save it for a special occasion.

Back to Flaminas: in the Berlina they'd wonder where the chauffer had gone, with the PF if there was just the one body in the boot, and with the GT you'd be guessing at just how much luggage the misses packed for a short weekend away.  With the Supersports, to my eye, it would only look right parked up in London if it had Swiss plates.

David

Great observations.  It struck me me when I got a B20 about 6 years ago (having come from Flaminia land - PF and GT) that the Aurelia had a wider appeal.  One incident among many that really sticks in my mind was when a 5 year old boy approached me in a farm shop car park asking "is it really yours, how fast will it go?" (aka 'what'll she do Mister?'.)  It made me think there must be something universal about some car shapes; that the 'iconography' doesn't have to be taught or learned.  The kid was responding to a 50 year old car without having any idea how old it was or what it was.

Once I had the B20, I couldn't look at the Flam GT without thinking how dreadful the packaging was!  It's a lot of car for two passengers.  Elegant in their way though (as the Flam PF's are, in their way, from some angles, a bit frumpy looking).

What stunning and beautiful car's they all are, way ahead of their time in both look's and the way they drive 8)

Quite delightful!

A contact in Italy has 4 wheels and also a set of four studded snow tyres for the same for sale........am not expecting any interest whatsoever for the studded tyres .....;)

PM me


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The car got to £42K...then I think it was pulled...anyone know anything else?


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The great party trick of the Touring bodied GT is that slender and exotic roof line - to die for (but lost in the GTL).
Clive

The Flaminia Supersport is now for sale with Marreyt Classics in Belgium, 132,000euro
 http://www.marreyt-classics.com/stockdetail.cfm?ID=584

A slight markup from the £42K it reached on ebay......so I assume he made him and offer he couldn't refuse, so it was pulled..happens regularly


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