Lancia Motor Club

Aurelia B12 saloon for sale.
Please see http://www.finecars.cc/en/detail/car/189574/index.html?no_cache=1&ret=20&request%5bfilter%5d%5boffset%5d=0&request%5bfilter%5d%5browcount%5d=6  for more details.

Ade Rudler.

If and when  I  sell my Fulvia Sport that would do rather nicely.work not objected to.richard

Gee....cheap as chips...where did I put that cheque book?

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PS Forgot, I already have one, cost a wee bit more to put right though!

Just reading the advert again, I can remember trying to contact the owner just around the time he passed away, it would be nice to view it for some photos if anyone finds out who buys it.


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I am selling it, so you are welcome to come to take some pictures before it is sold.  Ade.

Hi Ade, whereabouts is the car located? ...sorry noted its in Wiltshire correct?

Or pm me details, am in N Ireland, am over in GB twice  in the next 5 weeks,

Thanks


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Nice car for the money. try restoring a rough one it would cost double.  ::)

...oh Dave....how could you......... :'(


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Looks good Ade,
What sort of work needs doing? And has it ever had major body repairs would you know? In Italy, cars like this are increasingly rare so I guess it will sell before I retrun to the UK.
Chris

Chris, I think it has had sills at some stage, and there is a small patch on one floor pan, but generally it is very original.
Needs fuel tank cleaning and new fuel pump. Throttle linkage is stiff. Not sure if dynamo is working. Needs new radiator hoses. New exhaust has been fitted but not aligned and tightened up. I have had it running with very good oil pressure. There are bills totaling £3,390 for bits and work including full brake overhaul, new clutch and head gaskets etc. Paintwork is old but presentable. The interior is original and perfectly useable. It also has a nice Condor radio, I don't think I have seen many of these in B12s before.

Just lovely for the money too. If it were LHD....

Geoffrey real Lancias are only RHD, and real Lancisti only drive RHD Lancias!!!

I believe you - even if it a slight British bias. The s.2 B20 in the garage is RHD, as a sign of agreement.

The problem is the wife, who doesn't like sitting in the left seat without a wheel in front of her!   

As a regular Integrale driver I assume this is a wind-up!

Ben, I am playing devils advocate, as the side that the steering wheel is on has never had any bearing on if I bought a car or not and as you will know I have had lots of LHD Lancias.

How's about this then !

Definition of a real Lancia could be any of:

- designed under Vincenzo
- built with a narrow V motor (or any V motor)
- built with RHD, sliding pillar, etc.
- built under family ownership
- built pre-Fiat
- designed by engineers who were hired by family originally (De Virgilio, Zaccone Mina, until mid-70's)
- related to a rally winning car (Delta)
- built in Torino (last one was a Musa recently purchased)

Oh heck, embed with Lancia spirit?

I struggle with right hand drive being particularly "Lancia" - for all I liked that 'my' B20 was RHD but with KM on the speedo.  When explaining I always assumed all 'better' Italian cars used for driving town to town were RHD. 

Not letting truth get in the way of a good story I also used to say that different towns went to LHD at different times while out in the country the default was RHD so you'd arrive not being sure which side of the road to keep to or at which point to swap.  The assumption also being that there were not all that many cars on the road.

Anyone know the facts as to how late ALL Lancias were RHD compared with others, relative proportion of other makes being RHD at that time, number of cars vs population in Italy compared with the UK?

David

I imagine Lambdas were the first to be made with left hand drive and then only from the 8th. series. There are very few remaining - perhaps ten or so. They had to have a very "thin" steering box to avoid the mag/dynamo. See photo.
 Regards, John

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There were lots of fanciful stories about why some Italian cars were predominantly RHD right into the 1950s. I thought I had put this to rest in an article I wrote for either Viva Lancia ! or the LMC Journal ages ago. An article that I now can’t locate! This was based on finding a reference in an AA or RAC guide to continental motoring published pre-war. This warned British drivers to beware that in some parts of Italy the rule of the road changed between town and country – they drove on the right in the country and the left in the towns.

The idea being that on narrow country and mountain roads it was an advantage for the driver to be close to the mountain-wall or the edge of the road to position the car more accurately, so that RHD when driving on the right was better. The reverse is true in towns or where more traffic is expected, there it is better for the driver to be positioned close to the centre of the road, so as to better judge the closeness of on coming cars – for a RHD drive car this means driving on the left.

It would seem that this practice continued in Italy longer than it did in other European countries before becoming unworkable as the number of vehicles on the road increased. The more conservative car manufacturers and those building cars for the highways rather than the towns seem to have stuck with RHD longer than others, and this included Bugatti, Maserati and Lancia – perhaps Lancia being the last to make the change in the mid 1950s. Whereas FIAT made the jump much earlier.

Colin