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General => Press/Media: Lancias mentioned, seen or wanted! => Topic started by: Charles on 01 November, 2012, 06:29:29 PM



Title: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Charles on 01 November, 2012, 06:29:29 PM
It appears from a Reuters report that Sergio Marchionne has announced that the Lancia marque is to be dropped from the Fiat line-up.  Don't know what this means for Chrysler.


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: sparehead3 on 01 November, 2012, 07:00:52 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/11/01/fiat-models-idUSL5E8LVCD020121101 ? this one - it doesn't mention dropping it ...


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: ben on 01 November, 2012, 08:27:06 PM
I wonder how many seats the Serbian " seven door " 500L will have?


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Parisien on 01 November, 2012, 09:02:32 PM
It appears from a Reuters report that Sergio Marchionne has announced that the Lancia marque is to be dropped from the Fiat line-up.  Don't know what this means for Chrysler.

Less than ideal  news...having said that.....FIAT "dropped" the heritage aspect of Lancia some time ago......oh well


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Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 02 November, 2012, 08:18:54 AM
My reading of this is that Lancia will continue as a European 'badge' for Fiat's Chrysler products. I suspect we have seen the last 'Italian' Lancias but then Fiat seem committed to moving as much production a possible to their Eastern European plants anyway.

Don't know how this article adds up to the end, but for some I guess that would be better than a full American line up?!


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: fay66 on 02 November, 2012, 09:19:36 AM
My reading of this is that Lancia will continue as a European 'badge' for Fiat's Chrysler products. I suspect we have seen the last 'Italian' Lancias but then Fiat seem committed to moving as much production a possible to their Eastern European plants anyway.

Don't know how this article adds up to the end, but for some I guess that would be better than a full American line up?!

Unfortunately it all seems a bit academic now just hope they don't dispose of the collection piecemeal anymore than they have already done so. :'(
Brian
8227 :'(


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: fensaddler on 02 November, 2012, 11:23:28 AM
My reading of the article is that there is almost no mention of Lancia whatsoever, apart from where the Delta is made.  Make of that what you will, but the GFC is clearly still doing damage.


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Parisien on 02 November, 2012, 03:04:54 PM
It appears from a Reuters report that Sergio Marchionne has announced that the Lancia marque is to be dropped from the Fiat line-up.  Don't know what this means for Chrysler.

And to think VL carried an article by him saying he was going to revive Lancia in 2005.....coupe de grace more like it!!!!


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Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Sebastien on 02 November, 2012, 05:01:32 PM
Met yesterday a sales guy for a big swiss dealer, who told me:

1. The marketing of all Lancia badged / Chrysler sourced cars will cease: this means no more Lancia Flavia (Chrysler 200), Lancia Thema (Chrysler 300) and Lancia Voyager.
2. The Lancia Delta will phase out
3. The Lancia Epsilon will continue, but under which name is unclear

From what I understood, this is valid for all Lancia markets.


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Angle Grinder on 02 November, 2012, 05:32:54 PM
Well they've been as good as dead with the way Fiat treated them since the end of the Thesis, but this is still sad.

Do you think all the world's Lancisti could get together to fkloat a company that would buy the brand name and rights to the development of the Fulvietta prototype! Just keep it simple, windy up windows, no Air con, no electric folding this or that, just technology where it is needed to make the car safe, fast and economical. Basically, do an Italian MX5.

Just a dream...


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Derek Moore on 02 November, 2012, 08:13:24 PM
I've often wondered over the last few years what VW/Audi might have done with Lancia when you look at Skoda, Seat etc. Sacrilege I know suggesting a German company take an Italian marque, and I know nothing about the car industry but a lot about the quality of Lancias over the last century! I wonder what Vincenzo or Gianni would have done.

As for the Fulvietta, I was only looking at the pics again today. What they could have done with that!!

Ah well, dream on,

Regards to all
Derek Moore

ps I'm off to Anglia Car Auctions in Kings Lynn tomorrow, couple of Fulvias there. If anyone else is going, my mobile is 07740586951, coffee's on me.


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: the.cern on 02 November, 2012, 09:44:46 PM
A little off topic, Derek did you go to the ACA earlier in the year when the Flavia convertible was sold?  if so, do you know who bought it ??

Enjoy the day and good luck if you are bidding.

                                    Andy


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Derek Moore on 02 November, 2012, 10:18:33 PM
Hi Andy

No I missed that one. I might make some enquiries from the regulars tomorrow. By thw way, anybody know what's wrong with the red Flavia convertible on Ebay, been reduced twice form £14995, now £9995, seems quite cheap now, and from what I know of them quite a reputable dealer. Now of course we're well off topic

Regards
Derek


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: m tulloch on 03 November, 2012, 10:52:26 AM
The only surprise to me is that there's still a Lancia brand at all! Thought this would have happened years ago.


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: neil-yaj396 on 04 November, 2012, 09:10:23 AM
The only surprise to me is that there's still a Lancia brand at all! Thought this would have happened years ago.

Agreed,the writing has been on the wall since Fiat aquired Alfa and withdrew Lancia from rallying. However the Nouvo Delta and talk of a return to RHD markets seemed to offer a new hope until Chrysler came along!


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: fay66 on 04 November, 2012, 11:27:13 AM
The only surprise to me is that there's still a Lancia brand at all! Thought this would have happened years ago.

Agreed,the writing has been on the wall since Fiat aquired Alpha and withdrew Lancia from rallying. However the Nouvo Delta and talk of a return to RHD markets seemed to offer a new hope until Chrysler came along!
Bit of a letdown after the hype at the Biscaretti in 2006, but I think it was more to do with the recession than anything else, as even the Italians seemed pleased at the prospect.
RHD New Delta as we were told must have been on the cards as I can see no other reason for them to start producing RHD components, at least that allowed our New Delta owners to have them equipped with the correct lights, which otherwise would have made it near impossible to import one, although being cynical perhaps the RHD thing was to do with Chrysler all along ::)
Brian
8227 8)


Title: Re: Lancia - the end!!
Post by: Kevin MacBride on 01 December, 2012, 09:29:30 PM
I've often wondered over the last few years what VW/Audi might have done with Lancia when you look at Skoda, Seat etc. Sacrilege I know suggesting a German company take an Italian marque, and I know nothing about the car industry but a lot about the quality of Lancias over the last century! I wonder what Vincenzo or Gianni would have done.

As for the Fulvietta, I was only looking at the pics again today. What they could have done with that!!

Ah well, dream on,

Regards to all
Derek Moore


Maybe this is a simplistic viewpoint, but Gianni Lancia sold the company, so from that angle, it's doubtful he would have done anything. As for Skoda, VW adopted a brand which increased their sales foothold.  We recently dropped Fiat (after close on 60 years as a Dealership) and took on Skoda. The Skoda quality control, from workshop, to parts and aftersales, is mighty impressive.

ps I'm off to Anglia Car Auctions in Kings Lynn tomorrow, couple of Fulvias there. If anyone else is going, my mobile is 07740586951, coffee's on me.