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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: Dilambdaman on 22 February, 2013, 10:46:55 PM



Title: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 22 February, 2013, 10:46:55 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lancia-Fulvia-coupe-Hf-Fanalone-Cerchi-Da-13-/300861853515?_trksid=p5197.m1992&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D14%26meid%3D5782865111890523865%26pid%3D100015%26prg%3D1006%26rk%3D2%26sd%3D221192410743%26

1. Am I right in thinking they are hard to come by?

2. Are they worth what's being asked?

3. How much to get them to England?

4. Anyone interested in splitting them with me? I probably only need 1?

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Parisien on 22 February, 2013, 10:56:21 PM
The exact same?

Need to ask a few Qs before making any committment I suppose. Ron Francis goes to Italy a few times a year, you  could get them sent to his and he could take them back? The subito site doesn't have same safeguards as ebay though.

http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cerchi-in-lega-cromodora-da-13x6-lancia-fulvia-macerata-40043412.htm?last=1

http://www.subito.it/accessori-auto/cerchi-lancia-fulvia-hf-fanaloni-forli-cesena-55758100.htm


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Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Parisien on 22 February, 2013, 10:58:42 PM
http://www.autobelle.it/annunci/dettid.php?gb_id=171340

600 euros


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Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Parisien on 22 February, 2013, 11:01:02 PM
A single you say......:)

http://www.autobelle.it/annunci/dettid.php?gb_id=167403

Last set....

http://www.autobelle.it/annunci/dettid.php?gb_id=164763


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Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: chriswgawne on 23 February, 2013, 04:47:13 AM
Just seen this post.
Why when there are 4 wheels supposedly for sale does the vendor not photograph all 4 wheels together back and front. V suspicious. Also Cromodora magnesium alloy wheels wheels are now around 43 years old - would I trust s/h wheels? And they are a devil to refurbish - see the threads on the forum.
I have written earlier on the dangers of buying through www.subito.it - the only way IMHO is to go and see what you are buying BEFORE committing or sending any money. I live in N Italy and I have done this quite happily on a few occasions in my general locality and come away satisfied.
And interestingly I have a Wanted advert out for FPS 13 x 5" wheels for S1 Fulvia where I have been contacted from the US by a supposed vendor. They will only accept Western Union and the price is too low so I am suspicious enough to not pursue them.
Am I being too cautious? Methinks not.
Chris


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Tim Ray on 23 February, 2013, 10:54:23 AM
Hello
Andrea Nistri gave me a very good lead ref. Chromodoras recently. Davide Tassi at www.cerchiautodepoca.com
He supplies both refurbed and new wheels. Andrea obtained a quote for 4off refurbed  6J x 14 Chromos. at a price of €700 including delivery to an Italian address. There is also the possibility of part exchange. Located at Bondeno near Ferrara ( not too far from Brescia and Mille Miglia)
Regards
Tim


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: rogerelias on 24 February, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
Correct me if I am wrong but, were the 13" cromadoras known for cracking, hence they changed sizes to 14" ???


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Clyno on 27 February, 2013, 12:57:01 PM
Gentlemen,
I’ve just received a set of new 6x14 Cromodora replica wheels from Davide Tassi in Italy, they’re even modified to fit my S1 coupe. He’s a very helpful chap, excellent service and at a good price. I’d definitely recommend his services.
As well as being able to supply replica wheels, he supplies original refurbished wheels. Well worth contacting him.
I hope this helps. Trev                                                                       


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 27 February, 2013, 02:45:26 PM
Gentlemen,
I’ve just received a set of new 6x14 Cromodora replica wheels from Davide Tassi in Italy, they’re even modified to fit my S1 coupe. He’s a very helpful chap, excellent service and at a good price. I’d definitely recommend his services.
As well as being able to supply replica wheels, he supplies original refurbished wheels. Well worth contacting him.
I hope this helps. Trev                                                                       


Hi Trev, please can you post contact details for Davide Tassi.

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Clyno on 27 February, 2013, 03:38:30 PM
Hi Robin........ here's Davide Tassi's e-mail address; Davide Tassi [tassi.davide@yahoo.it]
His English isn’t very good, but he can translate e-mail correspondence, and will reply to you in the evenings.
I hope this helps. Trev.                                                                       


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 27 February, 2013, 04:16:02 PM
Hi Robin........ here's Davide Tassi's e-mail address; Davide Tassi [tassi.davide@yahoo.it]
His English isn’t very good, but he can translate e-mail correspondence, and will reply to you in the evenings.
I hope this helps. Trev.                                                                       


Many thanks Trev.

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: roddy on 27 February, 2013, 07:33:27 PM
Hello Robin

I have been following the Fulvia restoration with great interest - well done. Don't get disheartened though, but the final 10% finishing could take 90% of the time! - the voice of experience.

However, this thread is all about 6 x 13" Cromodoras as originally fitted to your car.  The wheels would have been fitted with a 175/80 x13 tyre, and no doubt the final drive gearing takes account of this.  I am a great believer that you should stick with an 80 aspect tyre on a Fulvia as the side-wall deflection is taken into account with the spring and damping rates, etc.  You seem to have perhaps got sidetracked into considering the S2 14" Cromodora, but have you considered what tyre size you might use and its effect on gearing?

I suspect that Roger may be right concerning the fragility of the original 13" wheels, but there are obviously 'sound ' ones still about (?);  and there were also other optional 13" wheels available at the time.  Perhaps someone with greater experience of using 13" wheels on an S1 Fulvia could add some suggestions where you might meet with success?

Kind regards - Roddy


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 27 February, 2013, 10:56:26 PM
Hi Roddy,

Pleased you're enjoying the Fanalone thread and yes, having restored Modestine from a rolling chassis to a deadline I hope that I'm prepared the effort that is going to be required to finish it for Fulvia 50th.

Somewhere along the way this thread has moved from 13" to 14" wheels so, just to keep set the record straight I am staying with the original 6 x 13 wheels. Problem is that I've only got 4 decent rims and need a 5th as a spare. Several useful leads have been suggested for either a replacement wheel or for firms who undertake refurbishment of mag wheels. A wheel or two needing repair have also been offered. So, I'm confident that once again through the good auspices of this Forum the problem will be overcome.

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: roddy on 27 February, 2013, 11:24:10 PM
Hello Robin

I will look forward to seeing the finished product at Fulvia 50.  A coupé finished in the Zagato colour Rosso San Siro should be easy to spot!

Sorry if I raised a red herring.  But perhaps worthy of consideration:-  when did you last have a puncture and need the spare wheel on a Fulvia?  Perhaps no oftener than on a modern car.  Why don't you consider just carrying a S1 14" steel wheel, fitted with a 145/70x14 tyre? (much like a 'space saver').  An S1 wheel will have the larger centre hole to fit on an S1 hub ring flange (the S2 saloon centre is too small, but could be enlarged), and a tyre of that section might be about the same diameter as the o/e size.  I know this is not the perfect and ideal answer, nor one for the purists (but then neither is the colour!), but it might be the economic temporary solution.

Regards - Roddy


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: lancialulu on 28 February, 2013, 08:52:29 AM
'space saver'

I have a steel Skoda wheel (I think 13 inch) with a standard tyre as my space save in my sport. It might even be a 12inch. It is certainly smaller than the standard 14 inch wheel and liberates quite a bit more space in the back!!

Tim


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Tim Ray on 28 February, 2013, 09:23:05 PM
I don't bother with a spare wheel for my Fulvia Coupé. It takes up far too much space when on trips. I put a couple of aerosol cans of puncture repair foam in the boot. Thankfully never had to use them,despite many thousands of kms travelling in Europe.Yet they have come to my rescue many times on our tractor and trailer. Just a thought.
Regards
Tim


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 01 March, 2013, 11:46:16 PM
Hello Robin

I will look forward to seeing the finished product at Fulvia 50.  A coupé finished in the Zagato colour Rosso San Siro should be easy to spot!

Sorry if I raised a red herring.  But perhaps worthy of consideration:-  when did you last have a puncture and need the spare wheel on a Fulvia?  Perhaps no oftener than on a modern car.  Why don't you consider just carrying a S1 14" steel wheel, fitted with a 145/70x14 tyre? (much like a 'space saver').  An S1 wheel will have the larger centre hole to fit on an S1 hub ring flange (the S2 saloon centre is too small, but could be enlarged), and a tyre of that section might be about the same diameter as the o/e size.  I know this is not the perfect and ideal answer, nor one for the purists (but then neither is the colour!), but it might be the economic temporary solution.

Regards - Roddy


Many thanks Roddy , good idea with much to commend it.

However, I dug out a couple of 13 x 6 Cromodoras which came with the car when Jonathan bought it. They look to be in pretty good condition and today I spoke with these people http://www.ianjemison.co.uk/contactus.html
who seem to be happy to repair and refurbish mag wheels. So, will give them a try I think.

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: roddy on 03 March, 2013, 12:20:45 AM
Hello Robin

Let the Forum know how you get on with this business in York.   I have a Flavia Cromodora that needs attention before it can be used.  Congratulations on buying a Fulvia sedan - much under-rated.  I had one for a short while many years ago.  My dear wife thought it looked like a Lada !!! but once the engine was fired it was absolutely a Fulvia....

Regards - Roddy


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: lancialulu on 03 March, 2013, 09:18:26 AM
Looking at the Jamison website I hope their method for stripping is different as the magnesium will soak the liquid up only to release it after painting.

This is the problem with mag refurb. It is very labour intensive to do right. Wonder if Robin can update with indicative costs etc as I have a set of 14 inch cromodoras needing a refurb.

Regards

Tim


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Dilambdaman on 03 March, 2013, 03:33:28 PM
Roddy, Tim, I will let you know how I get on with them. Speaking to them on the telephone they came across well and appear to know what they are talking about in respect of mag as opposed to ali wheels.

Robin.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: stanley sweet on 11 March, 2013, 07:07:47 PM
In the 'Usato' section of his website he appears to have 13" knock-on wire wheels for a Fulvia. Is this possible? Were they some unusual after-market option from years back? It certainly says for a Fulvia unless that's the name of the wheel which I doubt. I must say, I've always wanted to see a Fulvia on a nice set of Borranis just to see how it would look.


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Zagato on 12 March, 2013, 12:19:21 AM
Compomotive wheels (www.comp.co.uk) list a brand new 6x13 Cromodora replica wheel under their Classic & Special Orders
I think you can only buy through a German company who I presume commissioned them ... Compomotive would know the name ...
Many moons ago I did inquire about the price ... but cant remember how much they were ... but when you consider that buying second hand that may be cracked/damaged/need refurbishing/40 years old etc at 1000 euro vs brand new (and I think the new ones are made from current style alloy vs Magnesium, Compomotive would confirm the material used) they may be a good investment for the next 40 years of the cars life


Title: Re: 13 x 6J Cromodoras
Post by: Tim Ray on 14 March, 2013, 05:07:08 PM
I have recently been looking at new but non-original Cromodora's offered for sale in Germany, Italy and USA. If anybody is thinking of going down this route, it may be worth asking the question as to if these wheels are marked Cromodora. The ones I inquired  about did not . Maybe this could be important for the sake of originality, bearing in mind the prices being asked.
Regards
Tim