Lancia Motor Club

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/oportomendes/m.html?item=261541829276&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

How have they been modified, with new numerals?

Doesn't look modified to me. Most likely Flaminia not Aurelia - see photo below of a Flamina Farina coupe.

(http://www.classicdriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/colorbox/public/cars_images/lancia-flaminia-03_0.jpg?itok=4xoD3wX1)

Fairly sure they are Flaminia - late Aurelia B20's with Jaeger instruments have centre bottom where the indicator tell tales without checking.
Chris

Attached is a photograph of the speedo from my S4 B20, no. 3447, this happened to be on my desk with the other instruments and switches from the car. It is somewhat different from that offered here. So, presumably Flaminia, although I am not familiar with them.

As you can see my speedo shows 51528 kms, which of course, I am certain is the genuine figure!!???

                                                   Andy

Didn't some Flaminias have a clock?

Where did the mention of modified and revised come from. Is this a chance advertisement? I had assumed there are rules regarding accuracy of description.

.       My Pininnfarina Coupe has a clock in the lower part of the tacho, and direction indicators seperate to the instruments (not my car pictured though)

I'm sticking my head above the parapet to be corrected here...

As far as I know there are 4 main types of B20 instruments.

S1 : Cream plastic, green and gold dials (Metron?) as found in the B10
S2 - mid S4 : grey dials with counter-rotating needles.  I've seen a lot of variants of these with more or less additional features within the dails (indicator arrows etc.)
Mid - end S4 : Black face of the style that Andy has in his S4.
S5 - S6 : Flaminia coupe style, as debated here.

There are many subtleties and detail differences which I've never seen fully documented. They different styles are all attractive in their own ways!

The ebay instruments are a bit of a miss match. Aurelia 5th and 6th series had red indicator tell tails in the speedo that read to 140Km. The rev counter went to 5500rpm with a clock in the bottom segment. So the ones on ebay, the speedo is from a Flaminia and the rev counter is from an Aurelia, but is missing the clock and has the indicator tell tails instead!!

P.S. Why do people refer to Aurelias as having Flaminia style instruments??  Flaminias have AURELIA style instruments. The AURELIA CAME FIRST!!

Great specific info Ade. I guess that's the modification the seller's referring to.

I bow before your pedantry and shall in future say 'Aurelia instruments of the type carried over to the Flaminia though with some changes in specification'.

On the other hand, I think everyone knew both what was meant and also the model chronology ;-)

*edit* an email I've received suggests to me that I should point out that I am a pedant myself and admire others of the same persuasion.

Just to put the other side I say the Aurelia get press enough and lets hear it for the Flaminia :)

I'm also now waiting for the "Aurelia and Flamina Source Book" - at the very least "Part 1 - Instruments".   I'm reminded of a box of photos I have with several of door handles.

With the requirement that the part had to fit both Aurelia and Flaminia, this might be a very short list! A few instruments, some lug nuts maybe, anything else?

I have wondered in the past if the black 'plastic' steering wheel on a Flam Farina coupe was the same as a B12 wheel. What's the betting someone here knows?

...I meant any and every Flaminia, and its predecessor (the Aurelia) from which Lancia learnt so many important lessons.

Here's an example with a narrow brief (Richard Fridd sent it to me):

http://www.alfa-romeo-giulia-tz.com/

Perhaps he chose the TZ as there's so little to it?

David

A bulk discount would be welcome, in view of the price of CHF1900-2700. Not that bulk is the right word as only 100 or so  copies are proposed.

I have got some Veglia 'contra rotating' 2nd/3rd/4th series B20 rev counters/speedos available if anyone is after one. The 2 indicator tell tales - L & R -  are not in one  so that is 2nd or 3rd Series B20 I reckon.
Chris

Sorry - should also have said I have some 1st Series B20 instruments and also a couple of Veglia Aurelia saloon speedos. Also some rectangular Aurelia  saloon auxiliary instruments.
Chris

It looks the same as the B12 wheel except that the B12 has 'aurelia' instead of the stylised 'f' on the horn button.