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Model Technical and Interest => Fulvia => Topic started by: fay66 on 13 October, 2016, 05:21:07 PM



Title: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: fay66 on 13 October, 2016, 05:21:07 PM
I'm just looking through the LMC Journal No.229 May 1987 and in the Editors Post Bag theirs an article titled 'Winters Tale', the writer Richard Steele is talking about his experiences in his Fulvia in Coupein copenhagan in winter, and the problems of blocking everything off in to the engine compartment that still only enabled the engine temperature to reach 60c, he further comments that cutting 1.1/2" off the fan blades cuts down the fan noise with no noticeable difference to the cooling.
However the bit that surprised me was his statement " one of it's most endearing aspects comes to the fore during such conditions. I refer of course to the A.B.S. as fitted to my Fulvia. I drive serenely over ice and snow secure in the knowledge  that however hard I press the brake pedal there is no chance of the wheels locking"

Have I been missing something? as to the best of my knowledge ABS was never fitted to Fulvia? if it was I've never seen it. ???
That is unless someone knows different?

Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: lancialulu on 13 October, 2016, 05:59:01 PM
Weird.

I remember driving back in the snow some 35 years ago after a few winter warmers in my beloved Coupe and seemed to be the only car still on the road (the snow came down heavily while we were in the pub....). Everyone else seemed to have parked up or were in the ditch....

Combination of engine over the front wheels, disk brakes, and flat torque curve beats slippery surfaces?

Discuss....


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: fay66 on 14 October, 2016, 11:19:40 PM
Weird.

I remember driving back in the snow some 35 years ago after a few winter warmers in my beloved Coupe and seemed to be the only car still on the road (the snow came down heavily while we were in the pub....). Everyone else seemed to have parked up or were in the ditch....

Combination of engine over the front wheels, disk brakes, and flat torque curve beats slippery surfaces?

Discuss....

But the question is Tim did it have ABS? ;)

Brian
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Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: lancialulu on 15 October, 2016, 07:06:37 AM
Aquavit Braking System - yes!


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: peteracs on 15 October, 2016, 01:37:56 PM
Hi All

I am with Brian. I would be surprised that ABS was available on any car as early as that as I thought that ABS came around with the advent of cheap microelectronics which are used in the sensing mechanism. These only really became available late 70s/early 80s.

I guess a mechanical only system was of course possible..... someone will no doubt enlighten us!

Peter


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: JohnMillham on 15 October, 2016, 02:36:29 PM
There was a mechanical system which reduced the efficiency of the rear brakes to prevent the rear wheels locking up under severe braking. Did they mean that?
It wasn't ABS as we know it today.
Regards, John


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: David32 on 15 October, 2016, 05:17:41 PM
The Jensen FF was fitted with the Dunlop Maxaret system in the 1960's. This being a mechanical system.
David


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: the.cern on 15 October, 2016, 09:54:39 PM
I went to the RRL (now TRRL), in about 1966 where they were demonstrating the benefits of ABS on an E Type and also a motor bike.

Very impressive, especially back then. A time my offspring refer to as 'the olden days'!!!! Their children will soon teach them a lesson!!!!

                                            Andy


Title: Re: Fulvia and ABS ?
Post by: fay66 on 15 October, 2016, 11:12:07 PM
There was a mechanical system which reduced the efficiency of the rear brakes to prevent the rear wheels locking up under severe braking. Did they mean that?
It wasn't ABS as we know it today.
Regards, John

Don't think so John, the inference is not locking any of the wheels, like Andy I thought it was too early for ABS to be fitted, although Aircraft had the system for sometime, in fact it was first developed by Gabriel Voison in 1929, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system.

Brian
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