27 November, 2024, 12:24:31 PM
Welcome,
Guest
. Please
login
or
register
.
1 Hour
1 Day
1 Week
1 Month
Forever
Login with username, password and session length
News
:
Need to contact the Forum Administrator? e-mail
forum.admin@lanciamc.co.uk
- Copy deadline for Viva Lancia is 12th of each month. - For Events e-mail
events@lanciamc.co.uk
- To Join the club go to
http://www.lanciamc.co.uk/join.htm
Home
Help
Search
Calendar
Register
Lancia Motor Club
>
Model Technical and Interest
>
Fulvia
>
Unequal length trumpets
Pages: [
1
]
Go Down
« previous
next »
Print
Author
Topic: Unequal length trumpets (Read 3732 times)
0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.
RobD
Lapsed
Senior Member
Posts: 180
Unequal length trumpets
«
on:
14 January, 2015, 06:42:19 PM »
Targa Florio Classics are flogging a significantly modified Fulvia on eBay. I was interested to see it sports unequal length inlet trumpets and wondered if anybody had any experience of these.
Presumably the staggered trumpets are supposed to compensate for the V4s unequal length inlet tracts but I would have thought the only way to do this properly would be to stagger the distance of the throttles rather than the length of the trumpets so that the mixture has the same distance to travel. This would of course require four individual carbs using bike carbs or similar and I must confess I'd recently considered the possibility of doing this using some single choke 36mm Dellortos I've got knocking about, hence my interest.
My first thought regarding the staggered trumpets is that it looks quite radical but probably does very little but I'm always open to persuasion.
Does anybody know if there is any science or Fulvia experience to back it up?
Logged
You're all entitled to my opinion.
'75 Fulvia 1.3S
'68 works Laverda 125cc ISDT
KTM 640 Adventure
Yamaha TDM 900
Numerous Gas Gas trail bikes...
www.adventureride.co.uk
stanley sweet
Lapsed
Permanent resident
Posts: 1149
Re: Unequal length trumpets
«
Reply #1 on:
15 January, 2015, 10:33:33 AM »
I've been meaning to ask about this for some time. It doesn't seem logical to me. As you say, they are staggered long, short, long, short. But if the inlet manifold is basically similar in design to say my standard 1300, then the outer inlets are longer than the inner two. I thought the idea is to equalise the length. So to me they should be short, long, long, short. Be interesting to hear the explanation.
Logged
1971 Fulvia 1.3S 'Leggera' 1999 Lancia Lybra 1.9JTD LX SW
peteracs
Administrator
Rebel Poster
Posts: 916
Re: Unequal length trumpets
«
Reply #2 on:
15 January, 2015, 10:44:18 AM »
Hi
Looking at the picture, I think the answer may be a simple, equal length ones would not fit as the inlet end flange on them would interfere with the next one, so they used unequal ones which just give the clearance, bit bonkers to my mind, but if that was his only choice....
Peter
Logged
Beta Spyder S2 pre F/L 1600
Beta HPE S2 pre F/L 1600
stanley sweet
Lapsed
Permanent resident
Posts: 1149
Re: Unequal length trumpets
«
Reply #3 on:
15 January, 2015, 03:33:36 PM »
To be honest, I didn't look at the Targa Florio photos until afterwards. I was basing my comments on lots of others I've seen on the internet. The clashing of the trumpets seems the only answer, Surprised (especially with some of the Italian tuning places) that nobody has come up with a siamesed pair similar to the old Ferrari V12's. Shouldn't be beyond a competent engineer. Unless of course, as RobD said, the difference is so miniscule it's not worth it?
Logged
1971 Fulvia 1.3S 'Leggera' 1999 Lancia Lybra 1.9JTD LX SW
Richard Fridd
Permanent resident
Posts: 3485
Re: Unequal length trumpets
«
Reply #4 on:
15 January, 2015, 03:48:44 PM »
From
http://var1016.blogspot.co.uk/2007/02/fulvia-developments-part-vi.html?=1
fuel%20injected%20fulvia%20engine.JPG
(24.24 KB, 280x193 - viewed 528 times.)
Logged
Richard Nevison Fridd Happy Lancia, Happy Life
Pages: [
1
]
Go Up
Print
« previous
next »
Jump to:
Please select a destination:
-----------------------------
General
-----------------------------
=> About the LMC Forum
=> General Chat
=> Press/Media: Lancias mentioned, seen or wanted!
=> Competition Information
=> Events 2024
=> Events 2025
=> Local Events
=> LMC Legends
=> Links
-----------------------------
Model Technical and Interest
-----------------------------
=> Pre-Lambda
=> Lambda
=> DiLambda
=> Artena and Astura
=> Augusta
=> Aprilia, Ardennes and Ardea
=> Aurelia
=> Appia
=> Flaminia
=> Flavia
=> Fulvia
=> Stratos
=> Beta and Montecarlo
=> Gamma
=> Delta and Prisma
=> Dedra, Thema and Delta (2nd series)
=> Ypsilon, Musa and Y10
=> Kappa
=> Thesis
=> Delta (2008-)
=> Commercial Vehicles
=> Other Lancia Models
-----------------------------
Buy, Sell and Search
-----------------------------
=> Members' cars for sale
=> Lancia vehicles for sale
=> Lancia vehicles required
=> Spares for sale
=> Spares required
-----------------------------
Events Archive
-----------------------------
=> Events 2011
=> Events 2012
=> Events 2013
=> Events 2014
=> Events 2015
=> Events 2016
=> Events 2017
=> Events 2018
=> Events 2019
=> Events 2020
=> Events 2021
=> Events 2022
=> Events 2023
Loading...