E55 LBR the parallel project

[fay66]

The beast is bolted to the bench so it won't fall over...managed to do 2 rear and one front bearing on the Suzuki but really need a slide hammer to get the front hub off as the outer race stays onto the hub when you finally get it off. The race is now stuck on the hub and Suzuki list a special puller but Youtube came to the rescue. As the race is no longer needed because the new bearings come as a complete unit the race is no lnger needed so a kind man on Youtube showed a method of grinding an X into the race and bashing out a V shaped bit that releases the grip of the race on the hub and with a bit more bashing it was off with no damage to the hub. So we powered up the compressor and gave the 3.5" saw thing a try out and 10 minutes later it was off Amazing!
Thing is the gearchange on the Y10 is next to unuseable so I need to put some new bushes in (using the new toy) so do the Fiat Panda ones fit? vaguely remember Ed China changing some on a Panda...
Clarkey

While all the bushes will probably need replacing, the most wear is in a bracket/swivel tree bearings and shaft that bolts to the back of the gearbox, not sure if these still a available but I think I still have the exploded drawing and the part numbers of the bits involved,from when I did my Y10 Gtie about 15 years ago!
Brian
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[frankxhv773t]

It might be worth checking on E-per to see if Cinquecento bits will do.

[Kevinlincs]

Found some of these for sale somewhere last year, I'll try and find where.
On my Y10 LX they were OK so I didn't bother buying, but it was the complete bracket with the new link installed.

[Kevinlincs]

This is the main piece that bolts to the back of the gearbox, if there's a lot of wear in the bushes it will ruin the accuracy of the change.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Panda-One-Y10-Support-Drive-Gears-91385328-7691320-7652856-VEMA-13229/133708120948?hash=item1f21a00374:g:E~EAAOSwIFBfl70V

[fay66]

This is the main piece that bolts to the back of the gearbox, if there's a lot of wear in the bushes it will ruin the accuracy of the change.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fiat-Panda-One-Y10-Support-Drive-Gears-91385328-7691320-7652856-VEMA-13229/133708120948?hash=item1f21a00374:g:E~EAAOSwIFBfl70V

That's the one!
Brian
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[lancianut666]

Overwhelmed by all the help and support thanks guys
Clarkey

[Kevinlincs]

Also I now recall there being two types, there was another one that looked nigh on identical but on inspection the bolt holes were in different places, both in-line from memory rather than offset as per this one, so worth checking..

[Kevinlincs]

Slightly similar.....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/13220-Support-Drive-Complete-Box-Gears-Fiat-Panda-750-900-1000-1100-86-97/373100839257?epid=5025028886&hash=item56de8b0159:g:zNUAAOSwd4pe~JaF

[lancianut666]

Thanks again for all the help It seems I will have to check out what is fitted and take it from there.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

Hi all
Had a quick scrummage under the car at the gearchange and low and behold the gizmo bolted to the gearbox was really loose...so out with a 13mm socket and all tightened up thing was the change still seemed remarkably vague as before so will have to get the car up in the air a bit so I can get underneath properly and have a good rive about with the linkage. Another point is from my limited view of the bracket fixing holes they look to be in line and not diagonal as in the link Kevin put up...Was hoping to give the little beast a few laps of the carpark so will try and get the linkage sorted before that.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

Whilst trawling ebay for linkage parts came across this https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Set-Hebelwirkung-Austausch-Fiat-Panda-Lancia-Y10-Fur-7687667-4259848/183730938203
It seems to be a kit to replace the bushes in the gear linkage but what are the roller bearings for?
Puzzled of Redcar

[frankxhv773t]

From the exploded diagram in the listing I think they are for the front end of the rods from the gear lever to the bell cranks on the gear box. That diagram says 1988 to 1992 but the application check comes up positive for a 1985 Fire.

[Duncan23]

That looks useful.  Wonder if it would fit a 1993 (pre-facelift y10). Out of stock anyway.

[frankxhv773t]

I've been doing some digging in my spares, dismantling and cleaning up my spare gear shift mechanism. The set pictured has the three nylon cups that press into the ends of the fore and aft rods to push them on to the ball joints, plus the parts for the pivot sleeve on the gear lever. So it's all the bits before the bell crank that Kevin found and does not contain the bushes for the rods from the bell crank to the two levers coming out of the gearbox.

I checked my spare bell cranks. One is seized solid and the other has about 1mm of side play in it. The nut on the end is welded in place, hence the complete unit Kevin found, so it can't be dismantled and re-bushed.

[lancianut666]

Got the little beast jacked up enough to get under and dismantled the linkage a bit and removed the swivel bracket thing and it is well worn as are some of the bushes and securing pins. Quick blast round Ebay found a UK supplier for the bracket and bushes so will be here next week. I will probably take all the linkage off and clean it up and a lick of paint before it all goes back on. We can then have a few laps of the car park!!!
Clarkey