1963 Flavia Coupe at Anglia car Auctions jan 25th sale

[frankxhv773t]

It's attracting adverse comment only because of the (reportedly) excessive restoration cost and the massive price expectation. It is a pretty car, the upholstery depending on your taste and if it were being offered at half that figure we'd say it's not right but so what, grab it quick. However, for that sort of money it is competing with this;  https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/lancia/flavia/flavia-1-8-pininfarina/1966/133963

[Kevinlincs]

That's a lovely looking car Frank, really nicely done inside.
I can see the issue with the sills now, slope under the car rather than more upright on the burgundy car.

[Kevinlincs]

So if I now read things correctly the issue isn't with the car as such, more than it's being passed off as the top of the tree without actually being so...

[Derek Moore]

Looking at that footage I don’t think it received any bids. I saw the car on Friday, couldn’t make the sale day. It looked ok, a bit bling. The interior was indeed nicely done,  but the sills looked like they’d been plonked over the old ones.

[DavidLaver]

....off topic I know - but what's this 1967 GTE doing in Italy?  (same website as the lovely early Flavia)

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/lancia/fulvia/fulvia-gt-gte/1967/186345

[GG]

it is competing with this;  https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/lancia/flavia/flavia-1-8-pininfarina/1966/133963

Boy, that is lovely. Looks like new - one would need to see more, especially underneath...

[frankxhv773t]

Kevin. that's it. The car "is what it is" and is very attractive in it's way depending on your taste. The vendor's expectation is more the issue. Perhaps the point is that when a car is something of a niche product the pool of potential customers at top prices is restricted to those who are very knowledgeable about the model and will only part with top dollar for something that is absolutely right. If it were an Integrale Evo with custom mods of a very particular genre the purists might cringe but there would still be a market amongst wealthy but less critical buyers. I'm watching the Y10 for sale in Newark in the same way. I don't think anyone has paid £4,000 for a Y10 since they were almost new. An immaculate, low mileage, one owner Fiesta of that age would make that price and one might consider the Y10 a better car. However, where are the buyers? If the Y10 were a GTie our members might well be tempted but it's an absolute base model without even electric windows. Even amongst Y10s it's a poor relation. It's going to be very interesting to see where it gets to.

[mikeC]

....off topic I know - but what's this 1967 GTE doing in Italy?  (same website as the lovely early Flavia)

https://www.classic-trader.com/uk/cars/listing/lancia/fulvia/fulvia-gt-gte/1967/186345

If my Appia's repair bills had not been so high, that Fulvia would probably be in the UK now! I've been watching it for some time, thinking money's only worth anything if you spend it! And like Frank, I too am seeing what develops with the Y10 - it's only ten miles from here ...

[Justin McArdle]

The Fulvia Berlina is a GT not GTE. Looks to have significant rust issues - there are better examples available albeit LHD.
The cost to ship to the UK is the same (and relatively high proportionately for the low value Berlinas) for good and bad examples. Best to go for a good one!

[Parisien]

Currently in Rome, if someone buys it I could drive it back to UK, but suspect that would be wishful thinking at this late stage , flight this evening though.


But when I checked the address its not Via Salaria Rome, but another Via Salaria on the other side of peninsula, oh well.


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[DavidLaver]

The company is based in Rome, on the description the location is Ascoli Piceno 1600km from Calais. 

I've not quite worked out what "Link Motors" is.  A marketing umbrella for a network of independent dealers or is it really that big? 

http://www.linkmotors.it

"Franchising"

Protection in buying and selling
Ability to finance the entire amount
Possibility of Guarantee on Faults up to 36 months
Link Motors Personnel Assistance
Possibility of home delivery of the vehicle
Total management of bureaucracy



https://www.linkmotors.it/epoca.asp?marca=LANCIA

[Derek Moore]

No surprise, the Flavia at Kings Lynn didn’t sell.

[mikeC]

Similar colour scheme, half the price:

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1196808

I know it's a later car, but surely a 2000HF and an early Flavia are worth a similar figure?

[Kevinlincs]

Kevin. that's it. The car "is what it is" and is very attractive in it's way depending on your taste. The vendor's expectation is more the issue. Perhaps the point is that when a car is something of a niche product the pool of potential customers at top prices is restricted to those who are very knowledgeable about the model and will only part with top dollar for something that is absolutely right. If it were an Integrale Evo with custom mods of a very particular genre the purists might cringe but there would still be a market amongst wealthy but less critical buyers. I'm watching the Y10 for sale in Newark in the same way. I don't think anyone has paid £4,000 for a Y10 since they were almost new. An immaculate, low mileage, one owner Fiesta of that age would make that price and one might consider the Y10 a better car. However, where are the buyers? If the Y10 were a GTie our members might well be tempted but it's an absolute base model without even electric windows. Even amongst Y10s it's a poor relation. It's going to be very interesting to see where it gets to.

Yes, I see where that makes sense Frank. The potential buyers would mostly, if not solely, be a Lancia guy so I can see where the details need to be right.
As you rightly say, you'd maybe get away with it on an integrale as they seem to have a separate sub culture following. I know my own integrale is far from original with many details not correct, but the difference is I restored it to suit my taste and have no interest in selling, or its' value come to that. Makes no odds to me at the moment as it'll most likely be passed down to my lad when I've popped my clogs so if it is worth £200 or £20,000 it doesn't matter.

I did notice that Y10 and wondered if it would find a buyer, couldn't see it at that price surely? A mint GTie or turbo might stand a chance maybe?

[fay66]

Frank do you have a link for the Y10 please.
I owned two Y10's, an early fire and a G reg Gtie.
The Gtie was flawed in that it was a case t iron lump that was so heavy it really could have done with power steering, used to understeer badly when pushed, wed bought it for Diane, but she was unable to drive it as far too heavy for her, compounded by big alloys and wide tyres, but it certainly went.
The 999cc fire in comparison was a delight to drive, being very light controls and a very responsive carburettered engine, and I see the lack of bells and whistles with manual wind up windows a bonus these days.
Brian
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