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« Reply #225 on: 29 September, 2020, 07:34:42 PM » |
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« Reply #226 on: 07 October, 2020, 09:29:01 PM » |
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Canvassing opinion, rear hatch should I know be black but I must admit it's one feature I don't like mostly because it looks like one of those cars that people just put a new panel on but don't bother painting.
so the question is can I get away with doing it body colour, or should I stick to originality and paint it black...
Incidentally is the original black a Matt black, or Satin? Pretty sure they weren't a glossy black?
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« Reply #227 on: 08 October, 2020, 07:29:57 AM » |
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I'm with you on that one, Kevin. I like to see cars 'original' but also think the matt black hatch makes the car look like an unfinished repair job; I have seen several Y10s with body-colour rear hatches, and to my eyes look much smarter.
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« Reply #228 on: 08 October, 2020, 08:00:10 AM » |
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Canvassing opinion, rear hatch should I know be black but I must admit it's one feature I don't like mostly because it looks like one of those cars that people just put a new panel on but don't bother painting.
so the question is can I get away with doing it body colour, or should I stick to originality and paint it black...
Incidentally is the original black a Matt black, or Satin? Pretty sure they weren't a glossy black?
Series 3 Y10s had a contrasting colour hatch rather than black. I had this dilemma with the Yntegrale which is metallic gold in colour. In the end I went with body colour, but mostly because it also has a tailgate spoiler - if I’d left that off I would have gone for a metallic black! I don’t go with the Y10 looking unfinished, just ahead of its time. VW Up have black tailgate while the Seat and Skoda versions are body coloured - but the Up is glass covered But it’s your car.....your choice |
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« Reply #229 on: 08 October, 2020, 10:28:18 AM » |
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The original tailgate is satin black. To me it is a signature feature of the car but, as Kevin says, it's your car so your choice also a bit of individuality never did any harm. As far as originality goes it's easily reversed so there's not anything to worry about..
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« Reply #230 on: 08 October, 2020, 07:40:45 PM » |
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Glad it's not just me that finds it irksome! Also agree that other companies have now copied the idea, as they have done with most Lancia ideas, eh  Satin Black not matt, that's interesting and potentially a bit better. I also hate the trend of recent years for matt finished paint, just makes me want to polish them. At least a satin finish has a bit more about it. Hmn... |
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« Reply #231 on: 08 October, 2020, 08:40:31 PM » |
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Glad it's not just me that finds it irksome! Also agree that other companies have now copied the idea, as they have done with most Lancia ideas, eh Satin Black not matt, that's interesting and potentially a bit better. I also hate the trend of recent years for matt finished paint, just makes me want to polish them. At least a satin finish has a bit more about it. Hmn... Kevin, I put a new old stock tailgate on my Gtie back about 2006, and like you I wasn't fussed with the matt black, so I had mine painted metallic black and I thought it was a great improvement. At the time I also did away with the tailgate lock so it could only be opened from insides, besides being better from a security point of view, I never used to use the key to unlock it anyway. Trevor can also confirm that with series 2, special models were released that had a plastic? Clear tailgate which had the panel the same as the interior trim, I thought it looked great and really stood out. Brian 8227  |
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« Reply #232 on: 08 October, 2020, 08:46:41 PM » |
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Glad it's not just me that finds it irksome! Also agree that other companies have now copied the idea, as they have done with most Lancia ideas, eh Satin Black not matt, that's interesting and potentially a bit better. I also hate the trend of recent years for matt finished paint, just makes me want to polish them. At least a satin finish has a bit more about it. Hmn... Kevin, I put a new old stock tailgate on my Gtie back about 2006, and like you I wasn't fussed with the matt black, so I had mine painted metallic black and I thought it was a great improvement. At the time I also did away with the tailgate lock so it could only be opened from insides, besides being better from a security point of view, I never used to use the key to unlock it anyway. Trevor can also confirm that with series 2, special models were released that had a plastic? Clear tailgate which had the panel the same as the interior trim, I thought it looked great and really stood out. Brian 8227 That's a good compromise, a nice metallic black will at least look shiny! I just hate the thought of it looking like an unfinished car, but it was a feature I guess,, |
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« Reply #233 on: 09 October, 2020, 09:36:17 PM » |
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I guess the question is coming down to finding a very dark grey or graphite or something which to your eye "is a colour" rather than "a bare panel"...
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« Reply #234 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:29:33 PM » |
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I haven't posted anything for a while but I have been working on the car still, just it's been at the fairly boring stage of rubbing down, filling and generally straightening out all the bodywork. One panel I had overlooked was the rear hatch. There was some rust under the glass corners, surprisingly!  Given my failed attempt to get the front screen out I thought best to let the professionals take the glass out for me, which thankfully they managed without drama. The rust needing repair then became clear. The worst rust was on the inside face of the hatch, as seen here before the glass came out.. |
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« Reply #235 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:39:10 PM » |
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Worse than the rust on the inner portion was that the underside of the inner panel felt to be just as rusted, so somehow I needed to get at it.
Although the outer skin needed a small repair to the seam it wouldn't allow me access to the inner skin to be able to successfully blast it.
My solution was to cut the inner skin completely off so I could treat it properly.
First thing though was to make the repairs to the outer skin whilst I had a reference to work with to recreate the seam.
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« Reply #236 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:44:13 PM » |
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Both sides were about the same so once welded in the inner skin corners were cut away, seems to be a bit radical but the only way to tackle the rust properly.
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« Reply #237 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:49:56 PM » |
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With both corners removed I did consider the simpler and quicker route of blasting them but they were fairly delicate and needed care to be able to be reused, making new ones would be pretty tricky.
So they went into the electrolysis tank until all the rust was cleaned off which thankfully they survived without anything more than the odd pinhole which was welded up.
Once cleaned they welded back in OK making sure to be aligned as the oblong slot holds the electrical connections.
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« Reply #238 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:52:52 PM » |
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Front inner wings needed to be stripped of the rubberised coating as per the floor but for once this didn't reveal any issues so although it took ages to do it didn't create anymore work!
Engine bay also stripped of all clips etc as that too will be painted.
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« Reply #239 on: 05 November, 2020, 09:56:37 PM » |
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At long last the time came to get the primer on, again a not insubstantial task made to sound simple..
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