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« Reply #15 on: 19 June, 2020, 03:03:36 PM »

And (slightly tongue in cheek) a mobile phone! And more seriously a Lithium battery pack with a reasonable capacity for the car, phone and laptop.
Chris
Recovery membership with a mobile phone will cope with most real emergencies, antifreeze mix, oil, engine and gearbox, WD40, tool kit, tow rope, torch, fuses, fan belt, electric tyre pump, pair of Magnetic flashing emergency breakdown lights as no hazard flashers.
But a lot more comprehensive when abroad.
With the priming pump fitted, I don't need to carry a spare fuel pump as the priming pump is for emergency use as well.
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When I read “engine and gearbox” I thought how am I fitting those in the boot. 🤣
Then I twigged you meant oil.

Thanks for your advice.
I hope I don’t ever have to carry anything other than spares. I’m running out of boot space.
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« Reply #16 on: 22 June, 2020, 03:03:52 PM »

Managed to fit new electric pump and filter/regulator. Isolation switch and inertia switch installed also .
No more cranking to get fuel to the carbs.


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« Reply #17 on: 22 June, 2020, 04:34:27 PM »

I like the gauge. What is it's range? The ones I have seen seem to go to over 100 PSI
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« Reply #18 on: 22 June, 2020, 04:37:24 PM »

I like the gauge. What is it's range? The ones I have seen seem to go to over 100 PSI

It’s 0 to 14 psi. My Fulvia is set at 3 psi
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« Reply #19 on: 22 June, 2020, 05:46:03 PM »

I personally would remove the gauge after setting....
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« Reply #20 on: 06 July, 2020, 02:00:49 PM »

I got round to starting my engine yesterday and having put the electric and mechanical pump in series (electric first, then mechanical) the electric pump didn't get anything through so I changed the pipes to just leave the electrical pump and at least got it running. Not sure if I've done something wrong or the electric pump on my car isn't powerful enough but I'll redo the pipes to put them in parallel and see how that works.

It was running quite badly so a few other things to sort out first anyway. I shared a video of the engine running in the club Facebook group - https://www.facebook.com/andysherratt/videos/10158636112582188/ if anyone is interested. Pretty sure it was only firing on three cylinders and wouldn't idle, but running is an improvement!!
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« Reply #21 on: 06 July, 2020, 02:34:49 PM »

Possibly accidentally plumbed the mech pump back to front??
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« Reply #22 on: 06 July, 2020, 07:14:50 PM »

Possibly accidentally plumbed the mech pump back to front??

I did wonder, but don't think I have. It will be tomorrow before I get chance to check but will do that!!
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« Reply #23 on: 08 July, 2020, 07:15:21 AM »

Possibly accidentally plumbed the mech pump back to front??

I did wonder, but don't think I have. It will be tomorrow before I get chance to check but will do that!!

I did that once with my Beta. Not as hard as you might think.
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« Reply #24 on: 08 July, 2020, 11:17:56 AM »

I'd got the pipes the right way round but found that the one from the metal pipe to the pump which I thought was quite new was not in good condition inside. I've replaced it but not had chance to check properly yet.
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« Reply #25 on: 08 October, 2020, 08:48:00 PM »


Thanks Tim, just for clarity, do you turn off the electric pump once it has primed the system? I was concerned that the mechanical pump would struggle to pull the fuel through the electric one which was why I was thinking of going for a parallel set up.

Yes switch in side car and 4A fused supply on ignition circuit.

To revive an older post, having been struggling to get my car running (successful this evening) with electrical rather than fuel issues I did realise that the electric fuel pump was connected via the +ve terminal on the coil. Obviously this gives an ignition controlled circuit but it doesn't seem ideal to me so wondered what the recommendation is for the best place to wire it to.
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« Reply #26 on: 09 October, 2020, 01:09:03 PM »

Using a piggyback lucar connector to the first fuse on the left in the fuse box. Andrea
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« Reply #27 on: 09 October, 2020, 08:54:40 PM »

Using a piggyback lucar connector to the first fuse on the left in the fuse box. Andrea

Thanks!
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« Reply #28 on: 09 December, 2020, 11:48:04 PM »

Using a piggyback lucar connector to the first fuse on the left in the fuse box. Andrea

Thanks!

This hasn't been a priority job but for the last couple of evenings I have been trying to sort the wiring for the fuel pump. It was previously connected directly to the live terminal on the coil so came on with the ignition and was permanently on. I wanted to put a switch in the circuit so have run a wire through into the car finishing in the fuse block area. When I connect it to fuse 9 (the one on the left of the block), put the ignition on and then switch the pump on it turns the ignition off, and the pump doesn't operate. The pump works fine with the switch I have if I connect the wire on either fuses 7 or 8 (as does everything else whilst it is connected there). Any ideas why it might do what it does when connected to fuse 9?

I also tried it connected to the blue/black wire on the connection block near the ignition switch and it did the same thing of turning the ignition off, and with it connected as it originally was the ignition no longer works. The only change I am aware of making within the ignition system is fitting a heavy duty external condenser to replace the one inside the distributor, I'm not sure how that would affect it but maybe it has.
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« Reply #29 on: 10 December, 2020, 10:28:08 AM »

Hi Andy, it sounds like the fuel pump isn`t properly earthed and when you switch it on it puts the ignition circuit to earth maybe? If the pump is rubber mounted make sure the earth wire jumps the rubber bobbin and connects the pump mounting bracket to the body. The condenser isn`t the problem as that is on the negative side of the coil.
Recheck your wiring.
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