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MichaelElsom
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« Reply #135 on: 11 October, 2024, 12:50:30 PM »

Re the photo at Brooklands, I wonder whether the device is some sort of direction indicator. I can't blow it up large enough to say definitely but the colour and the presence of two horizontal bars inside the lens might be a clue.
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Kari
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« Reply #136 on: 12 October, 2024, 08:49:15 AM »

Mark,
I am sorry to distract you from the device at the front of the radiator grille.
I had a long look at the very good picture 0939 further up in this tread. Perhaps one of the reasons the front fenders look or are asymmetric is that the radiator grille seems to be not in the vertical axis. I have tried to mark it on your picture. It may be as little as one or two degrees, but when viewing the car from the front, its visible. I did have the same on my car, as a result of a bad  repair of an accident. In my case the wheel base on the left side was 30 mm shorter than the one on the right hand side. I also had to correct the position of the front axle by installing distance washers on one side of the front axle attachments. This has been sorted at my last restoration about 10 years ago.
Also visible on your picture is, that the car sits low at the front. It's clearly visible that the sliding pillars are halfway compressed in contrary to the factory settings of 35 mm. As you had the sliding pillars disassembled, the main springs are not broken, but might have gotten tired by age or are after market.

I hope not to bother too much, but I am sure you want a good car in the end.

Cheers  Karl


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Mark Dibben
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« Reply #137 on: 16 October, 2024, 08:04:00 PM »

Hello Karl,
Thanks eh. There's no doubt that it's been in some sort of front end shunt. No doubt. The shock absorbers were completely rebuilt with all new main and short springs and guides both sides, as we explored (a long way back!) in the thread. Attached the springs themselves in the advert and the description of them. It says they were made to standard spec though.
So it's a puzzle why the car would be sitting low as you say. Of course without having another car next to it, I don't know myself as this is the only one I have any real acquaintance of. It certainly handles very well, which is why I'm doubtful anything out of shape to any great extent. I can get the guys at AKVR to check the wheelbase easily enough when I am in again. I'll be able to go back in on Friday morning and the wings and perhaps still even the radiator grille will still be off the car; I'll try and remember to take some photos of the struts - that might help show what the story is.
At least some of the problem with the way it looks is that the wings are a absolutely a different shape. The right wing forward of the headlight support strut for example is 80% filler. When you put a slide rule that adjusts for curve against them this is very obvious.
The other intriguing thing is that the radiator cowl is not at right angles, it's slightly bent out of shape, so what you might be seeing is that. We know this because in making the bespoke wire mesh grille, to fit Bugatti-esque over the top of the cowl leaving everything in place underneath it on purpose, the wire mesh (which is of course at right angles to itself) 'runs out' along the bars that support it. It's only a very,very small amount, about a quarter of the width of one of the wire mash 'diamonds' across the entire width of it, but it's been enough to make painting the grille a nightmare! :-)
I'll get some more photos up when I can.
Thanks again,
Mark


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Mark Dibben
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« Reply #138 on: 17 October, 2024, 05:35:43 PM »

I remembered that Chris McPheat and I had had the thought to check alignment of everything and I have found the email he sent about it and the suspension plumb-lines correctly, the car is square and also the wheelbase is the same both sides. I asked Piers for his thoughts this morning when I went and his sense of it is the car absolutely straight. It's just the fact that the wings have been repaired and so too has the radiator cowl and none of them are quite the shape they should be. So it's an optical illusion.

Anyway, here's a picture of the first part of the signwriting that was done yesterday. The enameled LANCIA script is a direct copy of how it is written on the front cover of the owner's handbook. Any bigger and it would have 'swamped' the rocker box, any smaller and it would have looked too small; it's unlike a Bentley rocker box cover, for example, whose sheer size is the dominant factor rather than the Bentley lettering. So we went for the relative size of the script on LAGONDA rocker box covers. Just finishes the engine bay off nicely :-)

Sorry it's upside down but, whatever I do with the original photograph, the post always displays it thus!


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Mark Dibben
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« Reply #139 on: 28 October, 2024, 09:26:04 PM »

Called in today and the monocoque 'boxes' have been treated and painted and the wings are back on on - properly this time. All looks very good. As it should do.
In fact this was done last week and Piers Trevelyan took her for drive on Friday afternoon. He tells me it drives 'very well.' That's good enough for me! It's certainly come together very nicely and with the wings painted in the old fashioned way, which of course took longer to dry, they have a deeper shine but are also more are in keeping with the rear ones, so it doesn't look like two halves of two different motor cars. Otherwise the front of the car 'would have [technical description] looked like a boiled sweet!'
The second ambient temperature gauge (internal) arrived today, so all we're waiting on now is an internal map lamp and a new rear hydraulic suspension adjuster unit as the seals on the original had dried out, unsurprisingly, and it's leaking fluid. So best just to get a new unit; by the time the, erm, time is taken into account of removing and stripping the old one and making and fitting new seals and then rebuilding it and refitting it...
Now it's just a question of going around and doing the last little bits and pieces ready for the VSCC stand at the Classic Motor Show. Of which one is giving the leather yet another liberal dose of AutoGlym Leather Care cream - my job tomorrow morning! I'll try and remember to take some photos and also get the documents out of the boot. So I can scan them and get them up for you in the fullness of time. I'll add the photos to this post tomorrow anyway.


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Mark Dibben
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« Reply #140 on: 29 October, 2024, 03:24:43 PM »

The Gearbox Modification Materials
I finally got to clear the boot and vacuum the boot carpet of the little Lancia this morning as well as doing the leather. Which means I got hold of the large file of materials on the car. Here is a scan of all the material and info on the 2nd gear modification I promised a while ago.
Cheers - Mark

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Kari
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« Reply #141 on: 30 October, 2024, 09:09:56 AM »

Now, that's interesting that a letter I wrote 17 years ago, has turned up. I can say that in all the 17 years the modification has worked well for me. I also can say that it lasted about 40'000 miles and then had to be replaced. Of course, it depends how the second gear is used. Perhaps less in a relatively flat country, but here where I live, sometimes second gear has to be used uphill for some length of time.

The modification may only be successful when the the bearings of main shaft and lay-shaft are in reasonable condition and the gears themselves are not worn too much. And it is to note that the noise will not stop completely as the first and second gears are straight cut.

Lesson learned: rollers or balls running on chromed races doesn't work long, no use!

Cavalitto sells first and second gear sets.   https://www.oldlanciaspares.com/augusta_eng/transmission.php

Karl

 
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