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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #2 on: 07 January, 2023, 12:50:41 PM » |
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Both wonderful! What is the difference in power?
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frankxhv773t
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« Reply #3 on: 08 January, 2023, 12:59:04 PM » |
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Per La Lancia the 813:00 has 102 bhp with a 7.8:1 compression ratio and the 813:10/11 has 110 bhp with a 8.4:1 compression ratio. The later car got lots of other little upgrades like a larger carburettor, electric fuel pump, oil cooler and uprated cooling system. The 10/11 suffix is LHD/RHD.
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« Reply #4 on: 08 January, 2023, 01:44:28 PM » |
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Anyone know when a couple of other early changes - such as disc brakes, and loss of the inner windshield wipers on rear window - happened?
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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #5 on: 08 January, 2023, 03:06:49 PM » |
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Discs since early 1960? This 1962 Autocar article also suggests larger 175 tires give higher gearing. Were they 165s earlier?
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frankxhv773t
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« Reply #6 on: 10 January, 2023, 11:42:47 AM » |
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Weernink's lovely book "Lancia Flaminia details of the collection" says 165 tyres were only fitted to very early models and that rear wipers were dropped after two years, suggesting 1959. The book looks a bit lightweight in my opinion, given the image on the front cover, but I've actually found it very detailed and informative.
As to 175 increasing the final drive, I thought this was the width of the tyre so wouldn't affect the rolling radius, however, Longstones quote both their 165 and 175 tyres as 80% aspect ration which, if accurate, would make the 175 slightly wider overall diameter.
Disc brakes are part of the 1961 model upgrades.
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« Reply #7 on: 12 January, 2023, 07:47:23 PM » |
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Did anyone get it? Baaargain I would say… Seen Amazons go for more…
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« Reply #8 on: 13 January, 2023, 12:24:36 AM » |
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I just noticed the top of the backs of the front seats seem to have been remade in wood which is interesting. Normally they would be painted metal like the door cappings.
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« Reply #9 on: 13 January, 2023, 09:15:49 AM » |
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Interesting Frank, I can't recall what the metal ones look like. Do they also have the grab handles?
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« Reply #10 on: 13 January, 2023, 09:56:04 AM » |
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Hi , I too was interested in this one , although would have ended in divorce if I had got it ! I followed the auction to the end , 10750 euros , but I don't think it reached the reserve ? A snip at that price though , wonderful beast of a car !
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« Reply #11 on: 13 January, 2023, 10:54:56 AM » |
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It's now listed at 17000 euro, make an offer. Looks lovely in the photos, but with the comment 'There is a little corrosion reported to the rear right portion of the body, and some surface corrosion underneath, but generally the bodywork appears to be in good condition' means I for one wouldn't buy it without looking at it first!
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« Reply #12 on: 13 January, 2023, 01:56:26 PM » |
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Standard seat backs look exactly the same but painted gloss black.
Whilst first impressions of this Berlina for sale are very good There is a lot of detail improvements, to the interior trim particularly, that would be needed to make it top notch. I would want a close physical inspection before bidding to reassure myself it's not mutton dressed up as lamb. However, at the sort of money being asked a physical inspection would always be advisable.
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« Reply #13 on: 13 January, 2023, 02:46:14 PM » |
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Just flicked through the photos. Not sure if its a very wide angle lens distorting things but so much space under the bonnet! Looks like you could double the engine up for a V12.
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