Flaminia PF Coupe resto

[Richard Fridd]

This is the tap from my block. Maybe from something else entirely?

 Richard

[Dave Gee]

There are two different sizes of drain tap: the smaller one for the 2.5 and the larger for the 2.8. They both seal on with an O ring. I looked into this problem some time ago and had some castings made, but never got round to machining them as other things took over. Picture attached. If anyone wants to pick up on this project, let me know.

[frankxhv773t]

All of my three Berlinas have had the larger tap housing and all were 2.5 engines. This indicated strongly that the larger item was introduced with the 110 bhp 2.5 engine not the 2.8 engine. If this is an 813.10 or 813.11 engine it should have the larger tap housing. You will find this out, as I did, if you try to mate an early 2.5 bottom hose to a late 2.5 housing because the outside diameter of the early hose is the same the inside diameter of the late hose. It would seem that Lancia recognised the need for more cooling on the higher powered engine.

[lancianut666]

I wonder if the manufacturers of replacement hoses know this.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

A bit of spare time today so I decided to get the sump off and start dismantling the engine...as Kevin had already started this the sump was soon off and possibly tomorrow I will get the pistons and the crank out. I took the cam followers out and I think they might need replacing as they are pitted with rust with being stood for 20 years?
Clarkey

[frankxhv773t]

On the issue of hose size, I did provide feedback and was readily provided with a replacement of the appropriate size but I'm not entirely sure my conclusion is accepted. Having found it on an 823.10 LHD Italian import and two 823.11 RHD UK cars I'm inclined not to think it's a coincidence.   

[lancianut666]

Couple of hours today resulting in all the pistons out and the crank just about falling out!
Bad news is all the pistons have the top ring broken, a quick look at the bores did not reveal any sign of damage but will have a better look asap, the pistons themselves don't look too bad but again a better look asap. In my experience all the top rings broken points to new pistons or rings but the bore not being honed to remove the lip and wallop all the rings hit the lip and crack. Back in the day you could buy replacement rings where the top ring had a step so it would not hit the lip...if only.
Clarkey
ps I love it how all the end caps on the con rods are stamped with the piston number and the weight on both sides

[lancianut666]

Hi all
I was expecting a bit of trouble with the studs after tales of welding nuts to get them out but in the end a bit of the two nuts locked onto the stud and a lot of spanner work saw them all out on one bank with the other more troublesome ones getting the treatment tomorrow. The studs on the other bank suffered alot more wallops so some of the threads might not be too good so might have to invest in a die to tidy a few up so I can get the locking nuts on. A strange thing occurred when some of the studs came out of the block in the form of tiny clouds of dust or bubbles of some liquid as if there was some pressure behind the stud in the block and removing the stud released it... The crank is now out and also the oil filter housing is off. I will have to get my parts washer up and running as this engine is very dirty inside and out so after we have got the liners out it can have a good clean.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

Had a go at the second bank of studs and as expected a much tougher session with four still in situ as the lock nuts will not lock together on the stud and just turn. The good news was I managed to not have to buy a die to clean the threads up as a quick file and sand of the few flattened studs soon had the nuts on.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

As I was down to the last four studs (I think the arc welder is limbering up for these 4) I thought I would take the water outlet off from the side of the block. I give it a little tiny turn to tighten it up and break the corrosion and got a eek noise...promising...reversed the twist and another eek, a bit more turning to release it and it dropped off onto the floor having snapped off. I found something else to do today as it was not going to be my day on the tools.
Clarkey

[SanRemo78]

You have my sympathy - but it must be an age thing?

I'm a year into the restoration of a Beta Coupe. So far I've sheared two bolts. But the entire car is down to a stripped shell with no paint at all....

Guy

[lancianut666]

Hi all
Managed to secure a batch of spares yesterday to help with the rebuild and to have in reserve. The haul included a 823.02 engine the same as mine along with a transaxle and rear axle plus the front suspension hubs. I need a couple of engine parts so I have them now and possibly I will overhaul the spare set of brakes off the car and swap them with the ones on the car.
Clarkey
ps Van broke down on the way back and had to spend 5 hours on the hard shoulder of the M62. The RAC man said the Adblu injector system was on the fritz and it would drop the engine down into limp mode or just cut out as it was trying to do when I pulled it off the motorway onto the hard shoulder luckily into a SOS phone layby...Phew

[lancianut666]

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[lancianut666]

Had a go at breaking the axle down into a bit more manageable parts so they can be stored. Boy those leaf springs are heavy...managed to get one off before I bashed a finger and retired from the field for the day.
Clarkey

[lancianut666]

Hi all
Had to resort to the grinder to get the other spring off as the bolts were turning and I couldn't get a spanner on the bolt head, got one out but the others are scrap now. The next thing to do will be remove the drive shafts from the hubs...any suggestions? Seek and ye shall find, whilst having a quick look over one of the engines I spotted there was a starter motor clinging on to the older engine an 823.00. I will have to check to see if it is salvageable and will fit my engine.
Clarkey