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« on: 19 July, 2023, 03:36:38 PM » |
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Hi All,
I think I know the answer to this but just checking. The previous owner of my S2 1600HF used to use the above. Is this the accepted norm for for a 1972 1600HF?
Regards,
Martyn.
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lancialulu
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« Reply #1 on: 19 July, 2023, 04:09:19 PM » |
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1600 HF had hardened valve seats. So really no additive to protect the seat is required. Octane booster and perhaps ethanol protection should be considered.
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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MartynT
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« Reply #2 on: 19 July, 2023, 05:03:19 PM » |
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That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?
Cheers, Martyn.
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davidwheeler
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« Reply #3 on: 20 July, 2023, 12:59:28 PM » |
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Agreed, no lead substitute needed but get high octane petrol from e.g. Sainsbury or Tesco. Suits mine fine.
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David Wheeler. Lambdas, Aprilia, Fulvia Sport.(formerly Appia and Thema as well).
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lancialulu
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« Reply #4 on: 20 July, 2023, 02:50:41 PM » |
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Agreed, no lead substitute needed but get high octane petrol from e.g. Sainsbury or Tesco. Suits mine fine.
Or Esso Supreme nearly as cheap and reportedly 0 E even though it is obliged to put E5 on it (If I am out of date please say!). |
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #5 on: 20 July, 2023, 03:26:10 PM » |
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Did I read Esso are labelling fuel as E10 some time soon.
Richard
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Richard Nevison Fridd Happy Lancia, Happy Life
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Neil
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« Reply #6 on: 20 July, 2023, 05:15:19 PM » |
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The Esso E5 that has zero ethanol currently, it has been reported will actually contain 5% from September, still higher octane rating then E10.
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chriswgawne
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« Reply #7 on: 21 July, 2023, 08:28:01 AM » |
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Yes, from September there will be ethanol in ESSO fuel. This presumably is connected with the new underground pipeline from Southampton to Heathrow which is just coming onstream.
I will still stay with ESSO 99 Octane though as it seems to give good economy and smooth running ( and I get 6p per litre discount through the Porsche Owners Club!).
Chris
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Neil
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« Reply #8 on: 21 July, 2023, 08:57:17 AM » |
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I wonder if the LMC could get a discount, current price locally is £1.69 a litre!
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andyps
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« Reply #9 on: 25 July, 2023, 09:28:52 PM » |
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That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?
Cheers, Martyn.
I use Millers VSPe if I don't manage to fill up with either Shell of Esso 99 Octane fuel. |
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« Reply #10 on: 26 July, 2023, 11:14:37 AM » |
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That’s great - thanks. Can you recommend a product please?
Cheers, Martyn.
I use Millers VSPe if I don't manage to fill up with either Shell of Esso 99 Octane fuel. Me too, but it didn't prevent an episode of very rough running in my Beta on a very hot day at the end of June. Ran fine again after a dose of Super. I'd generally just used normal E5 and rarely bothered with Super until normal fuel was upped to E10. |
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Paul Greenway
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« Reply #11 on: 06 August, 2023, 01:05:44 PM » |
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Since my Sport 1600 had it's mishap on the M6 on the way back from the GNW in April, I have reverted back to a cap full of Redex and Shell V-power fuel only every half tank and 1,000 miles + later it's never missed a beat.
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Prev- 72 Fulvia Sport 1600, 78 Montecarlo, 83 HPE VX, 88 integrale, 89 Delta GTie, 90 Y10GTie, 90 Dedra 2.0ieSE, 91 HF Turbo, 91 integrale 16v, 09 Thesis Centenario, 12 Delta 2.0M-J
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« Reply #12 on: 07 August, 2023, 11:48:32 AM » |
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I still continue to use a lead substitute additive in Fulvias. It may be relevant to remember about the cushioning effect of a lead deposit on valve seats. Do not forget that 1600cc engines, in particular, can be susceptible to 'dropping a valve', with dire consequences.
Regards -
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Roddy Young
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Scott
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« Reply #13 on: 07 August, 2023, 02:37:05 PM » |
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I have a Fulvia 1300 (S2) and have only ever used Castrol Valvemaster Plus in my long ownership.
I guess specific product doesn't matter as much as said product doing its job of preventing valve seat recession but if anyone knows better please say! I do remember reading a long time ago the main lookout was not mixing additives that use different elements for their protection approach but that may now be redundant advice.
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