Black carpets turning green?

[lancialulu]

Brians font of all parts lists may be of help but my colourchart does not cover carpeting, nor any sales literature I have seen (quite a lot...)

Tim

Over to Brian

[rogerelias]

I just hope that i won,t be asked to judge the Fulvia class in the concours at an AGM again, cos i won't have a clue if the carpets are meant to be green or black

[ncundy]

The TAV (for S2 cars) says:

All interior panels were available in green (seats, door panels, interior panels) except carpets which were only available in:

grey (1900836)
beige (1900837)
blue (1900838)
red (19000839)
dark grey (1826211)

Not sure how that ties in with what Andrea says, but I wouldn't take it as gospel that the TAV is correct.

[fay66]

The TAV (for S2 cars) says:

All interior panels were available in green (seats, door panels, interior panels) except carpets which were only available in:

grey (1900836)
beige (1900837)
blue (1900838)
red (19000839)
dark grey (1826211)

Not sure how that ties in with what Andrea says, but I wouldn't take it as gospel that the TAV is correct.

Thanks Neil,
You saved my Bacon 

Brian
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[lancialulu]

And for S3 cars??

Tim

[nistri]

My own S2 coupe is a late S2 (spring 1973) and presumably had already got the green carpets often fitted to S3. At least in sunny (? ) Italy, earlier S2 cars that had black carpets did not spontaneously change into green (an environmental conversion  ).
I believe that, at a time of great changes and with the Beta range in production, the factory fitted anything it could be found in stock. Andrea

[ncundy]

It's a 1976 TAV so I assume it covers both. The TAV doesn't differentiate between S2 and S3 anyway, it just gives a breakpoint for any part based on chassis number.

[zagatoman]

No Lancia Fulvia Coupe or Zagato ever had the option of green for the carpeting.

Cars that now have green carpets are either original black that have turned green, or retro fitted by the owner believing green was the factory original colour.

[ian]

Can't believe that so many owners changed their carpets from black to the same colour green?
Mine was definitely green as Steve can confirm the match with his, the only black bits were the rotten bits! The carpet set was also definitely the original set, my car has a massive history with it and it doesn't include a replacement carpet. Plus from the state of the carpet when I removed it, it was 33 years old...for sure!
Still haven't fitted a new set either. Anyone bought a set recently?   

[zagatoman]

As I have said before, Lancia did NOT have the option for green carpets when new.

All original Lancia Fulvia carpets that are now green were originally black and have turned green over time, some quicker than others, Fact.

All Fulvias that have green carpets retro fitted because the owner thought this was original are wrong.

Owners that have original fitted carpets that have turned green still are original.

[fay66]

What series Fulvia's had carpet as an option? my 1969 1.3 Rallye Coupe And my current Fulvia 2c Berlina came with rubber mats, and from what I can see from my parts list book, so did everything else up to and including series 2's, although it looks like perhap HF's had an option of carpet.

From where was the information obtained about carpets please.
Brian
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[zagatoman]

Hi Brian

Just stating in my experience (4 Fulvias + 1 Fulvia Zagato) and information provided by Neil Cundy, James Parry, Colin Marr etc. etc. all Fulvia owners for many years. James as you know has broken up more Fulvias that I have seen in a lifetime, if he says they were black I am inclined to believe him

After this long thread on green carpets, none have given any proof that green carpets were an option, not one.

The TAV (for S2 cars) says:

All interior panels were available in green (seats, door panels, interior panels) except carpets which were only available in:

grey (1900836)
beige (1900837)
blue (1900838)
red (19000839)
dark grey (1826211)

[fay66]

Thanks for that, Until it came up on here I'd never thought about it, I've seen a number of cars with green carpets over the years, and about 10 years ago help break a series 2, but I can't say that I noticed the black bits!

Thinking about it it probably explains some off the odd interior trim colour combinations.

Brian
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[ian]

I've got a mate who's a carpet fitter. when I see him next, I'll tell him about the mysterious colour changing carpet in my S3.......I know what he'll say 

[zagatoman]

He’ll say, bloody hell, Italians can’t make a decent carpet without it turning GREEN, surprised they didn't make it turn red and white as well.