Its that truck again - and it needs saving...

[hyena1]

As far as I know, it remains unsold. I said I would respond to the seller after our committee meeting tomorrow. Kevin, may I ask if you have come to a decision? Any last thoughts from anyone prior to the LMC committee in the morning?
Mark

[the.cern]

You asked for any thoughts ................. well, if it remains unsold then we should be in quite a strong bargaining position !

I feel we should try to negotiate a lower price, does anyone have any idea of scrap value, if that is the only other realistic route open to the vendor  ??

            Andy

[hyena1]

We discussed this at committee today. We're still checking out one or two things and I hope to give an "official" response within 48 hours
Mark

[fay66]

We discussed this at committee today. We're still checking out one or two things and I hope to give an "official" response within 48 hours
Mark

Nice one Mark, I hope the reaction from other Committee Members was favourable.

Brian
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[hyena1]

The committee discussed the Esagamma at its meeting on Sunday and came to the conclusion that it could not support the purchase, the main reason being that if it bought shares it could potentially expose the membership of the LMC to unquantifiable and potentially large liabilities. The Esagamma is different to the Appia van in that it is completely unrestored; the Appia was not a "project" in the same way, and therefore the Club was not exposed. I do understand the distinction and support the committee's position.
 
Obviously that doesn't forestall a group of individuals doing something about it, but as it stands there'd be a shortfall in funding the potential acquisition of around £800 as well as some doubt about transport, storage and whether keeping it outside would be sustainable. Unless something changes significantly, it's now difficult to see how this matter can progress.
 
Mark

[Jai Sharma]

Mark,

Thanks for taking the matter up.

Guys (and Mark, wearing his non-committe but potential syndicate member hat) where do we go from here or do we drop it?

[fay66]

Mark,
Thanks for taking the matter up.
Guys (and Mark, wearing his non-committe but potential syndicate member hat) where do we go from here or do we drop i

Has anyone been able to have a look at it yet? does anyone intend to?  without the information as to what it's condition is, we don't have a basis for making any sort of decision anyway.

I'm still interested but with a very limited liability as many of us have already stated, As for the committees decision, I understand the reasoning ,but disappointed that it's not prepared to have a closer look to see what the potential liability might be, before making their minds up, as at this point they would be no more committed to a decision, than the rest of us are as individuals.
So to sum up, as I see it, we've squared the circle again, in that none of us know which way to jump without knowing it's condition, and we're no further forward without this information than we were to begin with.
What are Kevin's feelings? is he still interested in going it alone, putting aside the transport costs for the moment.

Brian
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[hyena1]

Brian,
I think you sum up the position very well, and I think if someone had seen it/does see it, and there is a clear plan both for its safe and secure storage and for its potential future use which could be put to the committee, then I feel the committee would seriously consider supporting that. But at present it doesn't appear that anyone is prepared to champion the project!
Mark

[neil-yaj396]

I agree. Is anyone in a position to go see the lorry and cast a critical eye over it? As above I don't think we can move forward without this happening. Perhaps Ade Rudler put it all into perspective with regard to Esagamma availability in Europe. There is no point vastly overspending the lorry's actual value and we can't make a judgement without knowing, roughly at the very least, what needs doing. Some sort of engine re-build must be required at the very least. This alone could exceed by some way the lorry's value?

[St Volumex]

Has anyone been able to have a look at it yet? does anyone intend to?  without the information as to what it's condition is, we don't have a basis for making any sort of decision anyway.

I agree Brian.  I previously suggested Ade take a look at it (how about it Ade?), and then we would be able to make an informed decision.

Mark, thanks for taking up the matter in Committee, but it's significant that they too are worried about potential big expenses.

[Martin D]

I've been watching this thread for a while and just to add that I'd love to see it saved, it would make a fantastic 'mission control' for events like Silverstone Classic. 

I'm happy to throw a £100 in the pot for purchase but until we know more I'd also be reluctant to commit to ongoing liabilities. I bought into the Appia van because it was much more of a known quantity.

As Mark has said, there is support in principle amongst committee members and if we can get more information/costs it is not a closed matter as far as I'm concerned.

Martin.

[Martin D]

and if you want more trucks and big boys stuff;

http://www.foro.pieldetoro.net/foros/showthread.php?t=85322&page=2

enjoy !

Martin.

[Sliding Pillar]

I suppose I could go and have a look at it, where is it, Stafford?
Ade.

[Harvey]

I would chip in for a share, if we have a good common understanding of what we're committing to - i.e. some written agreement on how we operate & maintain the truck.

I think the previous idea of a car transporter sounds perfect...!

Can we down-plate to a 7.5t rating so that we can all have a drive?

[thecolonel]

I thought similar, plus two Italian coffee machines