davidwheeler
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« Reply #15 on: 02 May, 2017, 09:54:34 AM » |
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You should really fit new nuts anyway so sacrificing the old one is no big deal and better than breaking the tool (or yourself). Nuts from Omicron of course
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David Wheeler. Lambdas, Aprilia, Fulvia Sport.(formerly Appia and Thema as well).
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dhla40
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« Reply #16 on: 02 May, 2017, 01:07:48 PM » |
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I would also recommend trying an impact gun before getting too medieval. I made a tool out of a 36mm socket and used an old 12v impact gun and after a few goes the nut span off, maybe just lucky but worth a try.
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andyps
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« Reply #17 on: 02 May, 2017, 10:28:57 PM » |
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Interestingly Omicron suggested that it wasn't necessary to buy new nuts!
I will need to modify the tool I have before I can use an impact wrench on the nut - no way of doing so with the t-bar requirement. Omicron say the tool is not stainless steel so at least I can have a go at welding it but I have had another thought before I go down that route - I made a very strong strap wrench when I was replacing suspension spheres on a CItroen XM I owned - they were very tight and it worked well for that so may give it a try around the hub nut tool before modifying it.
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ben
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« Reply #18 on: 02 May, 2017, 10:54:58 PM » |
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In case you are not already doing so your best chance of shifting the nut is to have extensions on both ends of the tee bar and work with an assistant so that you can apply an even torque.
Old steel water pipe is a better fit on the half inch bar than scaffold tubing! See what your local scrap man has lying around! Two four foot lengths should do it.
I agree with Omicron that it is ok to re-use the nuts if they are not damaged.
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« Reply #19 on: 03 May, 2017, 06:32:04 AM » |
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Do impact hammers and wheel bearings mix? Ben is right on the equal torque bit. I forgot I had to inlist my co-driver once. It worked.
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andyps
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« Reply #20 on: 07 May, 2017, 08:41:32 PM » |
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FInally got the nut off - I bought a 34mm impact socket whcih was a pretty good fit inside the Omicron tool and have welded them together. Still had to use a long extension bar on the breaker bar I was now able to fit but finally removed the nut this evening so can get on with the brake replacements   |
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andyps
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« Reply #21 on: 10 September, 2017, 05:52:32 PM » |
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To come back to this, I did the nearside rear brake a while ago and finally got round to doing the offside today only to realise that I probably made a silly error and used both of the shoes with the lug for the handbrake lever on the nearside as neither of the two shoes I have left have one. So I went to take the hub off the nearside again and can't shift the nut, even though it hasn't moved since I tightened it.
Just to check I'm not making another schoolboy error, it wasn't a left handed thread was it?
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rogerelias
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« Reply #22 on: 10 September, 2017, 07:20:17 PM » |
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Not left hand thread, more effort needed  |
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Dave Gee
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« Reply #23 on: 10 September, 2017, 08:12:14 PM » |
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As you are doing both sides, one trick is to swap the nuts from side to side, so they will tighten in different places and you will have a fresh tab to bend in.
Dave
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andyps
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« Reply #24 on: 10 September, 2017, 09:05:57 PM » |
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Not left hand thread, more effort needed It's going to have to wait - I broke the breaker bar  |
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andyps
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« Reply #25 on: 10 September, 2017, 09:06:49 PM » |
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As you are doing both sides, one trick is to swap the nuts from side to side, so they will tighten in different places and you will have a fresh tab to bend in.
Dave
Thanks. Might as well try that, if I ever get the nearside one off again  |
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andyps
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« Reply #26 on: 11 September, 2017, 07:42:40 PM » |
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I got the hub nut off tonight (replacement head for the breaker bar from Halfords didn't break!!) and dismantled everything only to discover that it wasn't my error. I assembled the brakes correctly so it is Omicron who sent me three of the shoes without the lug for the handbrake mechanism and only one with it. I'm pleased to find I didn't make a mistake but frustrated to have spend a lot of time getting nowhere. Hopefully they will send the replacement quickly.
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