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« Reply #450 on: 21 May, 2015, 09:30:48 AM » |
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Noel - what does the orange tube do? Haven't seen anything like it before. Does it pump oil up into the crankshaft bearings?
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« Reply #451 on: 21 May, 2015, 01:33:50 PM » |
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Yes, it's the main oil feed for the crankshaft
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« Reply #452 on: 21 May, 2015, 08:03:44 PM » |
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Still sorting out and cleaning the bits required and identifying differences.
Today was camshafts, and what I presume is the earlier camshaft (top), has the same profile as later ones but a much bigger rear bearing and consequently a different cambox. I couldn't find any date stamps so cannot be 100% sure of the chronology
Also, there are timing marks on this "early" setup. I have always done the timing from scratch because I wasn't aware of there being marks. How accurate they are I don't know , and will not know, because the cam is badly worn and will therefore use a better one
Indeed a second cam is also badly worn on the same lobes - cyls 1 & 2 for reference
ps - thanks for the link to the "Stainless Stephen" Aprilia, I had seen it before but not the most recent pages.
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« Reply #453 on: 23 May, 2015, 09:13:46 AM » |
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Serdi did my series I engine boring it out to take series II Nardi pistons and converting it to shell big end bearings on the Harry-type built up crankshaft I had from 40 years ago, and made a very good job. Trouble was they recommended new, steel rods, reckoning that the old alloy ones would not be up to service. This put the engine badly out of balance as Vibration Free found ("nearly jumped off the rig") but to their credit they balanced it perfectly. It now runs very sweetly but has taken to pouring out blue smoke so I suspect broken rings. Make sure the new pistons are the right weight or be prepared to visit Vibration Free! (see Lambda thread for a very technical exposition of balancing narrow vee engines).
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« Reply #454 on: 23 May, 2015, 10:15:59 AM » |
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"Harry type built up crank"?
As in a motorbike or Bugatti T35?
David
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« Reply #455 on: 23 May, 2015, 03:46:23 PM » |
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Planning on using duraluminium rods, maybe with new shells, depends on final measures, I have a couple of NOS rods so possibly keep as original.
There has been a lot discussed about Aprilia rods, I would rather not use steel rods because of the weight issue - I will take the risk. I have a very good set of 3rd oversize pistons (72.55mm) which may do as well, would just need new top ring grooves cut and new rings.
There may be an option for new pistons from "another vehicle" ....... I await news !
A couple of other things:
Anyone interested in swapping a very good 1st Series exhaust manifold for a Second series ? It has been cleaned, checked and repainted - the photo shows the worst bit of pitting.
Second, following up the topic of 1st vs 2nd series radiator grills. As Ade said, the 1st is much flatter, but more than that, it is much thinner - more than 10mm thinner at the sides, I think the photos show it !
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« Reply #456 on: 28 May, 2015, 10:01:59 AM » |
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Harry Manning of sacred memory used to do bottom end conversions to big end shells. I had him build up the journals and remetal the mains but never got any further till 40 years later!
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« Reply #457 on: 31 May, 2015, 04:42:05 PM » |
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We had hoped to run a short rally around a corner of the Languedoc this year, but unfortunately due to a "technicality" (aka French bureaucracy) we had to postpone it until next year.
However, instead we did the next best thing and organised a wine tasting followed by lunch !
Good turnout with 26 people and 12 cars, including Belna, Aprilia, Appia, Flavia coupe, 2000 coupe, Fulvia coupe and Zagato, MonteCarlo, Integrale , S3 Delta
The only problem was that I was talking too much and didn't take many photos ...... but I did get Mathilda working !
ps - it does look like some has stolen the front wheel from the Aprilia and left her on blocks !
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« Reply #458 on: 31 May, 2015, 08:44:14 PM » |
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That looks like a perfect Lancia day out .... particularly if you are not the driver, so can sup the wine and not just taste it!!!!!
Andy
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« Reply #459 on: 01 June, 2015, 10:23:22 AM » |
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Very nice. Where did all the Lancias come from, your local Lancia club?
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« Reply #460 on: 01 June, 2015, 12:06:44 PM » |
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Stan, we mainly had the Languedoc Lancia owners. Several from Toulouse and then the rest from the Aude/Herault. Mike and Denise Jennings were also there in their very pretty,new Fulvia Sport
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« Reply #461 on: 25 July, 2015, 09:00:04 PM » |
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This week , we were delighted to meet up with a 2 x Artena-owning Lancista - I am working on him to join the Forum and share some stories about these rare and overlooked vehicles (he is already an LMC member).
We took the Aprilia out on my favourite circuit and as always, anyone new to an Aprilia is surprised at how modern they are and how well they go !
I haven't used the Aprilia much for a month or so because of the Appia and the heat, but the Aprilia is so rewarding to drive.
The Appia is easy, modern and without fuss. She works well from cold and has no foibles. I lent her to a friend this week (husband has a Mustang) and she was enchanted by the Appia. She can reach the pedals and once Mathilda had shown her how to select the gears she was away, I never thought I'd get the car back !
The Aprilia is a different matter, you have to "drive" her, think about warming up the engine and brakes, but once that's done you can have fun. Better suspension than the Appia and probably just as quick.
I love them both for different reasons. Will be interesting to see what the furgoncino is like !
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« Reply #462 on: 06 September, 2015, 02:05:39 PM » |
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Not quite the "Goodwood Revival" but our village organised a car and bike show today with pig roast.
Good turnout of 50 or so cars.
Cars ranged from Citroen Tractions, DS's , Renault 11 Gordinis, 4CV, Peugeot 203,404,405 etc etc. 3 Alfa Spiders, 2 FIAT Spiders, heaps of Americana. I wanted to take the (R5) Turbo 2 home
Loads of bikes, most interesting for me were the 1935 250cc Peugeot (same family since new !) and a Ural with sidecar
We took the Aprilia,Appia,Rodeo and Ercole to balance up the Italian contingent. It was also good to get everything running before the vendanges (harvest) which is likely to start next weekend
Pig roast was very good ....... before and after photos !
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« Reply #463 on: 06 September, 2015, 04:11:01 PM » |
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
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1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
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« Reply #464 on: 07 September, 2015, 10:11:43 AM » |
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"Harry type built up crank"?
As in a motorbike or Bugatti T35?
David
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