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« Reply #45 on: 05 November, 2012, 09:15:00 PM » |
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....a few more.......
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« Reply #46 on: 05 November, 2012, 10:09:40 PM » |
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Cannot see very clearly, but I hope you did not use the bolts in the middle of the 'V' to lift the engine. I think you may run the risk of pulling them out of the head. Hopefully it will come apart easily !!!
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« Reply #47 on: 05 November, 2012, 10:11:53 PM » |
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Ooopppssss.....its on a pallet now Kevin, will modify lifting point next time!
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« Reply #48 on: 06 November, 2012, 11:34:33 AM » |
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That engine is a beautiful thing. The details in the empty engine bay are lovely. Keep at it !!
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« Reply #49 on: 06 November, 2012, 02:55:55 PM » |
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Thanks David,
I just got a back issue of Auto Italia edition 146 Aug 2008 this morning ...full article on same with lovely pics.
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« Reply #50 on: 19 November, 2012, 10:57:30 PM » |
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Just back from my tour of the UK, 1200 miles, 10 pickups/drop-offs....  Left engine and bumpers off to get worked on sometime next year, collected a batch of great doors and correct wings, plus repair sections from Bill Lewis...so fabulous... ....am really delighted with them all. Down again tomorrow evening for a some more stripping......to continue until completed end of month... Mostly cleaned up engine now................the flag and shield showed up well! P |
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« Reply #51 on: 20 November, 2012, 07:51:23 AM » |
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Its always interesting opening up an old Aurelia engine (once you have got the heads off!) to see what the internal corrosion in the block is like. In my experience it varies widely....and in different places from engine to engine. As to the heads, they will look awful initially but get them cleaned up properly first before jumping to any conclusions. looking forward to seeing the photos.
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« Reply #52 on: 20 November, 2012, 11:18:44 AM » |
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No doubt Chris, the grand opening will reveal all plus the rest, but won't happen til autumn or so next year,
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« Reply #53 on: 22 November, 2012, 10:56:37 AM » |
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A few more evenings done, dismounted the propshaft, brake cable, gear linkages, pedal box and linkages, steering column, plus then cleaned up same.....not a pretty sight!!!
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1. How much play there is there supposed to be in the gear change linkages, rubber bushes available?
2. See photos of brake master cylinder, it doesn't fit onto the pedal box mounting as it should suspect a bodge/substitute job, anyone know if all Aurelia MCs the same? Cost of reburb, kit for doing same available?
Indeed a number of bolts/pins were missing off the same pedal box.....a death trap effectively!!
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« Reply #54 on: 22 November, 2012, 09:03:59 PM » |
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The master cylinder looks pretty original. I have a few old cylinder bodies. They look fine, and probably would work well with new seals. However for peace of mind (and after ploughing into a tyre wall some years ago with brake failure) I'd buy a new one. I got one from Cavalitto a few years back. I did repair one on a car I'm working on, the only issue was a broken spring (Cavalitto again).
The casings I have also are slightly 'ovalized' at the plunger end.
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« Reply #55 on: 22 November, 2012, 10:05:30 PM » |
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Agreed it looks very similar but was poorly seated when bolted to outer pedal box array...ie the bolts and washers keeping it in place were only sort of 1/2 way into the three lugs ....hence the question/query
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« Reply #56 on: 25 November, 2012, 03:30:06 AM » |
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Re gear linkage play. There should be virtually none. New synthetic bushes are available and they have steel bushes inside them. My B12 gearchange is quite precise and free of any lost movement.
Master cylinder does look original. Mine had a modification to take a Nissan(?) master cylinder whose bore was slightly larger than the original. Hence, long pedal travel. Removed it and replaced with a correct cylinder and it transformed the brakes. Probably uses first 1/4 to 1/3 of available pedal travel for maximum braking.
Use a rope slung under the manifolds to lift the engine! Not the bolts that locate the camshaft. Also, when replacing the latter make sure that the spigot end on the bolts engages with the indexing hole in the camshaft bushes.
Keep the good work. My rebuilt B12 engine is an utter delight.
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« Reply #57 on: 25 November, 2012, 11:10:54 AM » |
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Hi Brian, thanks for that, am getting conflicting feedback re the MC, I must check what number is on the side and report back!
Good re linkage bush, took care re further moves of engine now with engine the guy who'll do the work.
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« Reply #58 on: 26 November, 2012, 08:09:52 PM » |
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Just to up-date, there are only 2 bolts holes on the base of this MC, but three recieving bolts on the pedal box, no numbers on it....comments?
Spent a few hours stripping out the wiring loom.......who ever said the Italians have a sense of humour.................cos they DON'T!!!
All so interwoven and same coloured wires and of course after purchase up-dates which didn't help. Hoping to come up with a sensible way of labelling and annotating same by tomorrow evening.
Onwards and upwards!
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« Reply #59 on: 27 November, 2012, 08:38:13 AM » |
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Mine had a modification to take a Nissan(?) master cylinder whose bore was slightly larger than the original. Hence, long pedal travel. Removed it and replaced with a correct cylinder and it transformed the brakes. Probably uses first 1/4 to 1/3 of available pedal travel for maximum braking.
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
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