Richard Fridd
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« on: 28 March, 2013, 07:14:47 PM » |
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Here is a photo of the Brooks dealership, which may be of interest. The caption reads "Tony Brooks, another famous racing driver (nicknamed the Racing Dentist...) had a Lancia dealership in England after he retired from racing. Behind the BMW is a Lancia Fulvia Sedan and a Flavia Coupe".
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« Reply #1 on: 28 March, 2013, 09:18:43 PM » |
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In the 1960s there were a few people who knew that B20s were fine cars that could be bought cheaply in Italy and imported into the UK. Harry Manning did this with B20s and Flaminias, also Dan Margulies and Tony Brooks did the same. I tried to find out who imported the B20 that I owned, which first came into the UK in 1967. It wasn’t Harry or Dan and I think it was likely to have been Tony Brooks. I quite liked that idea.
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« Reply #2 on: 29 March, 2013, 08:14:49 AM » |
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I read somewhere that David Piper brought B20s over from Italy in the 60s, does anyone know more about this? He's still around (and winning court cases) so perhaps Jack should interview him for a piece in VL.
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« Reply #3 on: 29 March, 2013, 08:35:46 AM » |
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When chatting to David Piper one day a few years ago, he acknowledged that the money he made from importing Aurelia B20's and spare parts into the UK in the early 60's (often with Dan Margulies) helped support his racing costs in a big way. However he has no memory or records of the cars he brought in.
Regarding the Tony Brooks Lancia dealership, I always found them to be very enthusiastic in my dealings with then.
In the 70's I bought a new Fulvia 3 Coupe, then a new 1600 Beta Coupe from Tony Brooks as daily drivers when Gerald Sims was the sales manager. I also bought a used Fulvia 1600HF (which subsequently needed an engine rebuild under warranty) for myself for fun and the ex-Lancia press Fulvia 3 for my Dad - XYM38N - from Tony Brooks in the mid 70's.
Gerald Sims who was a hugely enthusiastic Italian car fan then went to Ivor Hill in Wimbledon in the late 70's and they became the largest Lancia new car dealer in the UK I believe.
I bought a used Monte Carlo S1 then a new Gamma Coupe from them while Gerald was there. My dad was having trouble with the Fulvia gearchange by this time due to arthritis and so we got an early Delta 1300 from Ivor Hill and my rh man at work had a company Delta GT which was great fun.
Gerald Sims also took on a Maserati dealership and a De Tomaso dealership - brave man! He lent me a Pantera and a Merak SS,each for a couple of days but I was never brave enough to buy - residuals!!!
Instead I went to Porsche 911 as a daily driver (via an Alfa GTV6 and then a Lotus Excel from SGT Taplow - residuals!!) and I am still there now some 30 years later.
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« Reply #4 on: 29 March, 2013, 08:48:49 AM » |
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I forgot to say that Jacky bought me our (now her) aluminium Fulvia Sport OPD23E from the 'dead car' lot at Tony Brooks in the late 70's for £200 for the perfect set of 5 x FPS 13" alloy wheels. It had a broken engine, seized brakes, paint falling off etc etc.
By this time she was driving a Fulvia Berlina S2 and she thought I would like to put the FPS wheels on her car. Neither she nor I realised then that they were 13" wheels and therefore they would not fit an S2 car! Never mind - they are still on her Sport today.
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Richard Fridd
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« Reply #5 on: 29 March, 2013, 09:41:43 AM » |
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Hi Chris, sounds like you know the garage well. Does it still exist do you know? There was once a Fiat/Lancia along the road here in Maidstone, which was called "Union Street Motors", which had a ramp to access the first floor workshops if I remember correctly. I seem to remember s/h tappet shims were available for something like a pound each. When talking to David Piper did he mention his experience of the Brands Hatch 6 hour race in the Flaminia Coupe? I can't find much info on that apart from some results and one article. Richard
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« Reply #6 on: 29 March, 2013, 06:06:43 PM » |
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How about a David Piper signed Lancia "cover"
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« Reply #7 on: 29 March, 2013, 06:33:04 PM » |
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Another Lancia importer, Hoffman.Three ads, an ebay Hoffman letter and a photo of the showroom. Also a David Piper imported Aurelia pic
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« Reply #8 on: 29 March, 2013, 07:55:57 PM » |
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No plate evident.....is same B 12 around any more?
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« Reply #9 on: 29 March, 2013, 08:48:31 PM » |
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Advertised recently just under 13K. I will post the link later.
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« Reply #10 on: 29 March, 2013, 09:05:51 PM » |
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Dignified transport indeed. Here is the link http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C326543# |
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« Reply #11 on: 29 March, 2013, 09:08:50 PM » |
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Yes, the one Ade sold on behalf of a late owner of same.
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« Reply #12 on: 29 March, 2013, 09:24:52 PM » |
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David Piper also lodged at John Maltbys house.and was pleased that there was a lathe in the front room that he could use, I met a few years ago and talked to him about his time at Maltbys, he had fond memories.
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« Reply #13 on: 08 April, 2013, 10:58:51 AM » |
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Every one should have a lathe in the front room! On the subject of David Piper, may I recommend the book "Pipes", which now read has set me on a hunt for"Sun on the Grid". Back to the subject of Garages, there is a B20 on this forecourt.
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« Reply #14 on: 12 April, 2013, 07:53:36 AM » |
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Back to mid sixties London, does anyone here know if this garage with Lancia logo still exists? (from Gideons Way) richard
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