Everyday Appia

[Dikappa]

last picture looks mouthwatering (is that correct english?)

[the.cern]

It must be admitted that some jobs are better/more enjoyable than others!!! Sarah's job has to be right up there with the best of them!!!!

[stanley sweet]

I was on the Knights Rallye with Tim and Sarah. Never thought I'd see them put wine IN a bottle.

[lancialulu]

I was on the Knights Rallye with Tim and Sarah. Never thought I'd see them put wine IN a bottle.

well there might come a time when it comes out of the bottle!!(thanks Simon😎).

[simonandjuliet]

Just finished lunch with 3 delightful young chaps from Portugal, Ricardo Cardoso and a couple of friends who are doing a whirlwind tour of Spain and France. They were in a very, very early Fulvia berlina with the single carb, rolling speedo and column change etc.

Indeed, it appears to be about the 230th Fulvia built ! Since it dates from 1963, it is only a year younger than the Appia - mine is mid '62. It was interesting to drive the 2 side by side, Ricardo drove the Appia and I drove the Fulvia, then swapped back.

A slightly unfair comparison because the Fulvia was so laden with camping gear and everything needed for their holiday and was very down at the back, but the Fulvia feels more solid on the road and larger. The Appia feels more nimble, delicate and "edgier" with, to my mind, a slicker gearbox.

The Fulvia is the more comfortable to sit in and feels very airy and roomy and is a great choice for a camping trip.

They are 2 very real Lancias, built for the same purpose, ie transporting a family and associated "stuff" in style and comfort, but not necessarily very quickly !

Only a year apart, however, with the Fulvia you get a sense of what is coming .........

Bonne Route Gents !

[stanley sweet]

230th - quite an important historic car then. It's always interesting to look back on the end of one model and the beginning of another. As you say, although only a year apart you can really see the '60's' in the Fulvia and reslise it was needed to keep up with the modern shapes appearing like the Cortina etc. I still think the most stunning change of model must have been Traction Avant owners seeing the DS for the first time in 1955. Can anyone think of a bigger leap looks wise? I suppose the E-type over the XK 150 was pretty special too.

[fay66]

Just finished lunch with 3 delightful young chaps from Portugal, Ricardo Cardoso and a couple of friends who are doing a whirlwind tour of Spain and France. They were in a very, very early Fulvia berlina with the single carb, rolling speedo and column change etc.

Indeed, it appears to be about the 230th Fulvia built ! Since it dates from 1963, it is only a year younger than the Appia - mine is mid '62. It was interesting to drive the 2 side by side, Ricardo drove the Appia and I drove the Fulvia, then swapped back.

A slightly unfair comparison because the Fulvia was so laden with camping gear and everything needed for their holiday and was very down at the back, but the Fulvia feels more solid on the road and larger. The Appia feels more nimble, delicate and "edgier" with, to my mind, a slicker gearbox.

The Fulvia is the more comfortable to sit in and feels very airy and roomy and is a great choice for a camping trip.

They are 2 very real Lancias, built for the same purpose, ie transporting a family and associated "stuff" in style and comfort, but not necessarily very quickly !

Only a year apart, however, with the Fulvia you get a sense of what is coming .........

Bonne Route Gents !

Ricardo has been updating me since leaving Portugal and hopefully tomorrow I'll start a thread with his comments to me and photos,
One thing that Rcardo has done is to up the final drive which makes it better on the flat for the long distances he's covering, but the downside is that it's even slower up steep hills as he has to change down more, those on the Knights Rallye know that my Achilles Heel with "Fay" was climbing hills, particularly one coming out of Gap where everything bar pushbikes was passing me, once over the top though it was a different story.
His fuel consumtion figures are also better than I normally achieve with "Fay" but I do have two twin choke Dellorto 32 DLB's.
Ricardo also said that Simon very kindly donated a tyre and helped him get it fitted, as one failed on the way to Paris and was unusable.
Currently the starter motor has packed up but they can't find out the problem, even after speaking to his electrician in Portugal, so they are bump starting it

Brian
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[the.cern]

Bump starting ............... oh yes, we older ones will remember well the times when that had become the only way of starting a car, just as a matter of course. Now I have to explain to my children (in their thirties) how to bump start a car. How times have changed.

                              Andy

[frankxhv773t]

And what ever happened to starting handles? I spent a whole winter starting my Morris Traveller on the handle.

[the.cern]

And what ever happened to starting handles? I spent a whole winter starting my Morris Traveller on the handle.

Sadly missed .... a life-saver on so many occasions!!!!

[stanley sweet]

Have a vague memory of reading that if you bump start a modern car you ruin the catalytic converter? Is that right?

[simonandjuliet]

Starting handles, early Appias have them but not third series, you still have to bump start them !

2015 Clos Aurelia Harvest meets Classic Car show .......

The Appia was the only Lancia involved, but there was also the Ercole, R60 tractor, Rodeo and Citroen HY van - nearly 250 years of motoring between them

Lovely looking vintage, approx 4 tons of Syrah picked by a group of willing helpers. The red machine in the winery is an ancient "egrappoir" or de-steming machine. A set of rotating batons inside a perforated drum strips the berries from the bunches, drops them into a vat with a "queue de cochon" spiral that then pumps them into the cuve. The stems get ejected from the drum.

Simple but effective

Payment for most pickers was a sore back and big lunch, washed down with 2014 Clos Aurelia

[lancialulu]

Good effort.

And the carignan?

[stanley sweet]

4 tons! Never thought about the total weight of the grapes before. I think I would like this mentioned after picking, not when I'm given my first empty bucket.

[mikeC]

Starting handles, early Appias have them ...

Are you sure?

My Series 1 is a fairly early example - white controls, no rubbing strips on the bumpers - and there is no provision for a starting handle.