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« Reply #105 on: 16 July, 2014, 05:09:59 PM » |
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In between marking A level papers and fixing defunct laptops I managed to get a quick session under the hood of our favourite Lancia. I have reassembled the gear linkage as per the earliest photo ignoring my parts book. It was a lot easier with the engine out but it is all back together and feels a lot better. With the links as they are now they do not foul on the distributor and I can get most of the gears, it sticks in 3rd? and has to be manually released from under the bonnet but as the clutch is not connected up yet I'm hoping it will be OK I think I have a spring missing from somewhere on the linkage that might explain it. Clarkey
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« Reply #106 on: 17 July, 2014, 02:41:49 PM » |
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made some more progress today as the clutch and throttle are connected again after 40+ years. had a few issues with the throttle cable a the old one one had a much larger eyelet so had to drill the new one out
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« Reply #107 on: 17 July, 2014, 02:44:44 PM » |
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Clutch is back on now but awful amount of free play will have a look tomorrow
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« Reply #108 on: 18 July, 2014, 04:54:32 PM » |
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Managed to get a bit of slack from the clutch linkage , the main problem is the silent block sleeve in the clutch pedal joint thingymebob had perished giving a fair amount of slogger. fitted a nylon bush as a temp measure and adjusted the push rod up and the pedal felt a bit better. issue I have is is it doing anything with the clutch? the whole engine and gearbox are moving when I give the clutch pedal a good shove hmmm.... Not used to a coil clutch plate everything seems to be in reverse. Anyway I got under the car and by pulling on the pedal I could see the clutch bearing sleeve moving so at least it is all connected properly. Looking in my parts book i see the clutch cover has sleeves with the springs, now if these sleeves slide in the cover I think that might be the issue as they have not moved for 40+ years any one got any ideas on this? so I gave up on that one and moved on to the radiator tap casting thing. The two bolts holding the tap on sheared one also losing its head when I tried to get it out. So back to welding a nut on like the gearlink thing at least the tap is working. I gave up after that and went home and had a lie down..
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« Reply #109 on: 19 July, 2014, 04:06:17 PM » |
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during todays woodworking fest I stumbled across a dismantled clutch cover . this confirmed my concerns about mine being seized might try a touch of heat with a blow lamp through the wee hatch on the bottom of the gearbox. might be a lot of swearing if this doesn't work Clarkey
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« Reply #110 on: 19 July, 2014, 07:05:47 PM » |
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I wondering which has been "easier" - Simon buying another Appia to get an idea what its supposed to look like or you taking on all the spares...
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« Reply #111 on: 19 July, 2014, 07:50:22 PM » |
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David you aint seen nothing yet! there is another 2 wagon loads at least Clarkey
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« Reply #112 on: 25 July, 2014, 02:42:14 PM » |
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Bit more done today. All those threats of 3 foot long jets of flame up the hatch on the gearbox seems to have convinced the clutch cover to ease of a bit and today I could discern a slight movement on the sleeves in the cover when I yanked the clutch pedal,So the blowlamp was put away and I managed to take up a bit more of the slack in the linkage and put a drop of oil on the ends of the sleeves as the poke through the cover. Lots of jumping up and down on the now much firmer clutch pedal seems to have got some movement in the clutch I will still need Matron Clarke to assist for a final check and then I can get the propshaft back on as the car is up on blocks and the trolley jack at the moment. Gear linkage still giving some grief as it was fouling the throttle rod, I also took the gear lever out and retightened the c nut with an oil filter wrench seems better can now get it out of 3rd with some effort. It will be drills and stud remover stuff next ( I always snap them) so I can rebuild the radiator tap pipe thing and get the rad back in the car. Clarkey
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« Reply #113 on: 26 July, 2014, 05:15:55 PM » |
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Propshaft back in, the rear doughnut looks past it, will leave for now. have a stack of marking to do and need it done before Thursday as I am off to the traction engine rally at Pickering not a steam buff but there is always lots of lovely junk!
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« Reply #114 on: 04 August, 2014, 06:58:07 PM » |
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More news on the clutch, with the assistance of matron Clarke I could see that the clutch is moving about .25/.3 of an inch which could be enough to release it I will have to check with the car in gear and the back wheels off the ground. More bits back in today my re-tubed radiator at last!
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« Reply #115 on: 04 August, 2014, 07:08:20 PM » |
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Not much room under the bonnet now, if I'm not careful I might have to try and start the beast soon! still some issues with the throttle and some pipes and wires to connect up. very tight between the fan and the rad are the later cars a bit more spacious under the bonnet? Clarkey
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« Reply #116 on: 08 August, 2014, 08:10:29 AM » |
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Bit more done. Bravely I connected the dynamo and starter up and then slipped the battery lead on in the boot. Good news is no smoke or flames or fuses popping (yet) I jury rigged the front lamps up and I now have working sidelights and headlamps with an operating headlamp flasher (the relay makes a real clack sound ) The horns work when I press the centre button (need adjusting) but no joy with the indicators. I dismantled the switch thing with the toggle, replaced the bulb and cleaned the contacts. Under the bonnet the cancelling switch had suffered some battle damage in the past so I just twisted all the wires together. I will have another play today. Just need the radiator hoses connecting, the fuel line and a exhaust fill all the fluids up and turn and push that key. it all sounds so easy it took me well over an hour to just get that wee oil pipe back on. Had a play about with the throttle linkage and had to use the original link from the series 1 carb as the later one meant when you changed gear the engine would rev up .. nice.. the old one is about an inch longer but pushes the long connecting rod out of the way of the gear linkage. Clarkey
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« Reply #117 on: 08 August, 2014, 10:01:20 AM » |
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Getting close !
Who redid the radiator and are you happy with the work ?
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« Reply #118 on: 08 August, 2014, 09:31:15 PM » |
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Local firm did the radiator they have been on the go here for years so gave them a chance it looks ok time will tell. Better news on the indicators I stripped the flasher switch down and found one of the magnet plates had seperated from the bakelite block so a bit of superglue and a bit of a lube on the springs and it went back together. As it was open I could get an inkling as to what it does on the car and I worked out that I needed a link putting in to send 12volts to the flasher unit. Tick tock tick tock... soon had it back in the dash a quick rewire of the brake lights to make them independent of the flasher switch job done. Only prob is the coil is always trying to lock the switch up so I need to get the underbonnet part replaced as well but it works.
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« Reply #119 on: 08 August, 2014, 09:39:50 PM » |
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The coil magnetises a side when you flick the toggle switch that way locking the indicators on, the device under the bonnet switches the current to the coil I guess as cams on the steering column strike the switch ( mine is too damaged to tell what it did so I am guessing) when the steering is in the straight ahead position the current is switched off the magnet de energises and the toggle switch returns to the central position.Just for good measure there is a flashing bulb inside, the system uses a normal flasher can I tested it with one from a Fulvia but my original one works OK as well,
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