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« Reply #135 on: 14 August, 2014, 05:12:41 PM » |
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You might want to anneal the copper sealing washers.....Sorry if teaching to suck eggs...
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« Reply #136 on: 15 August, 2014, 07:51:19 AM » |
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Thanks for the tip will see what the leak situation is today. I am on with some more shelving for the consortium spares today so might be next week before I can get the wheel off and have a look
Clarkey
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« Reply #137 on: 15 August, 2014, 07:33:16 PM » |
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I'm sorry to say this but if you tighten the banjo bolts too much the banjo unions deform and they will never seal. copper washers should be annealed and nipped up just tight, then about 1/4 of a turn no more!!! also the rear of the alloy cylinders pit with corrosion, I had mine skimmed to give a flat surface again to seal properly ., if it were me I would look through your spares for replacement link pipes , check the cylinders are not pitted , anneal the washers and hopefully job done , I made your mistakes when building my s3 10 yrs ago AND NEVER FORGOT IT !!! S3 brakes are a ROYAL pain in the backside but when sorted work well , good luck , persevere and it'll all come good in the end  j |
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« Reply #138 on: 16 August, 2014, 09:17:17 PM » |
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Had a quick look today and no fluid on the inside of the wheel, so
a) leak fixed....or
b) there is no fluid left in the system to leak out... Hmm...
Clarkey
off to watch Inspector Montalbano he is a scamp isn't he..
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« Reply #139 on: 17 August, 2014, 05:46:06 AM » |
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I hope I don't have the same problems with mine !
All on the back burner at the moment because I have the Ercole brakes in bits - all very much simpler, but worse parts availability ....
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« Reply #140 on: 17 August, 2014, 02:47:39 PM » |
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had a quick look today still leaking, will have a look next week after my next project to make a solid bench and source a nice big vice to go on it..
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« Reply #141 on: 10 September, 2014, 09:52:09 PM » |
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update on the brakes...both sides leaking now dagnabbit!
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« Reply #142 on: 11 September, 2014, 07:26:12 AM » |
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change the washers and banjo pipes, check for pitting on backs of cylinders , anneal washers and nip up, took me a 2n'd go on the 1st appia I did , this way worked and I've stuck to it since with minimal problems , unfortunately the banjo pipes look tougher than they are and the crush easily  , persevere with it, you will get there in the end |
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1972 fulvia 1600HF
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« Reply #143 on: 11 September, 2014, 07:54:17 AM » |
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Thanks for the tips, will give it a go asap.
Clarkey
ps did you find a source for the new banjos and pipes?
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« Reply #144 on: 11 September, 2014, 06:47:32 PM » |
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not new just picked some good s/h ones, surely there should be some there?? re use a good set of original copper washers, seem softer and thinner than replacement / modern ones
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1935 belna saloon
1935 augusta lusso
1938 ardenne
1939 aprilia lusso
1958 appia s2
1963 appia s3
195? appia camioncino
1972 fulvia 1600HF
1976 fulvia coupe
194? ardea SUV "THE BEAST!!!"
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« Reply #145 on: 13 September, 2014, 12:11:59 PM » |
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hi
when I get round to it there is a couple of orphan backplates loitering around that I will have a go at recycling...I wondered about reusing old copper washers, like you say new ones are alot thicker...
Clarkey
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« Reply #146 on: 08 November, 2014, 08:00:17 PM » |
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Hi all
been a bit frantic last couple of weeks what with leaks, plumbers, insurance underwriters, dehumidifiers, servicing the Stilo and last week matron collided the Beetle into the back of a Renault. Anyway got under a Lancia today and started on those leaky front brakes. Soon had the backplate off and on the bench. As a rule I never throw anything away so a rummage in a glass jar turned up some of the original copper washers for the banjos they are a lot smaller and thinner than the ones I fitted see pic. so a quick rub down with 800 wet and dry and then off to the back kitchen to anneal the washers whilst matron is at work. If time allows tomorrow will try and get the backplate back on (again!!) and connected up.
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« Reply #147 on: 08 November, 2014, 08:02:29 PM » |
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And in the darkness bind them.... sorry couldn't resist
Clarkey
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« Reply #148 on: 01 December, 2014, 05:07:14 PM » |
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Finally got to putting the backplate back together and on the car... I tightened the banjos up with a spanner as far as they would go and then using a torque wrench set to 20lbs feet nipped them up. I will check this arrangement later this week as I am busy painting sledges at the moment.
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« Reply #149 on: 07 December, 2014, 10:08:38 AM » |
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The elves have finished the sledges so on with the brakes...... oh dear the little plunger thing won't stay up so no pressure on the system. A quick strip down revealed some bad pitting in the bore of the central reservoir thing but it was working last year... hmm... what to do? a new one is around 300 euros I think... Don said he has used a modelling filler in the bore of a master cylinder quite successfully.. or can I get the old one resleeved... I will try the resleeve route first if anyone has had this done be most grateful for any info
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