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« Reply #570 on: 09 January, 2019, 10:06:41 AM » |
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Happy New Year to all
Not much done of late as my dear old Mum who has been ill for some time has passed away so it will be a few weeks till everything is sorted...however did manage to keep the starter motor project on track as I sent a crankcase, bellhousing and engine mounting down to Wosp followed by the prototype starter so we will hopefully have some news before the end of the month.
Clarkey
piccy is from near Hartlepool where the old flood defences have been updated and new lagoons have been created so this tree finds itself in a tough place as the water will be brackish.
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« Reply #571 on: 08 February, 2019, 09:06:03 AM » |
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Mystery parcel is on it's way from the starter motor people...watch this space
Clarkey
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« Reply #572 on: 08 February, 2019, 12:24:33 PM » |
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Here it is...looks just like the last one Doh!
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« Reply #573 on: 09 February, 2019, 05:11:49 PM » |
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Great news!!! it fits...still had to remove the engine mounting but about an hour in a freezing cold garage saw the new motor installed and connected up and the engine mounting back on. Quick connect up of the battery and off it went sounds about 5 times faster than the old one so a charge up of the battery a gallon of fuel and we will see what occurs
Clarkey
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« Reply #574 on: 09 February, 2019, 05:19:17 PM » |
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« Reply #575 on: 09 February, 2019, 05:20:44 PM » |
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And a close up
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« Reply #576 on: 10 February, 2019, 09:27:05 AM » |
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Very interested in an improved starter motor. Are high torque and gear reduction starter motors the same thing? How does the claim of faster turning with less current work? Not expensive either.
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« Reply #577 on: 10 February, 2019, 11:15:15 AM » |
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Reading the bumph it seems to be down to more modern conducting materials used in the construction...I was pleasantly surprised at the improvement also the engine was stone cold and it had not been turned over for weeks... the plugs were out but the oil would have drained back into the sump and the bores would be dry... I will try some molyslip down the bores before I try to start it up. In addition I will put some gearbox oil in.
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« Reply #578 on: 10 February, 2019, 12:01:22 PM » |
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The High Torque and Gear Reduction starter motors are one and the same. We use them on all our high compression race engines as they spin over much faster and take less current which is essential on cars with no charging systems. The higher torque ( turning Effort) is achieved by gear reduction of the motor, either by planetary as in an automatic gearbox or gears in mesh as in a conventional gearbox. Simply put, it`s like using a long bar to loosen wheel nuts, which requires less effort and therefore less current which is electrical effort.
I hope I haven`t over complicated it.
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« Reply #579 on: 10 February, 2019, 02:13:42 PM » |
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I have had one on my flaminia for a long time and it grate
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« Reply #580 on: 10 February, 2019, 07:03:45 PM » |
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Castrol Classic EP90 for the gearbox?
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« Reply #581 on: 10 February, 2019, 07:17:28 PM » |
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Castrol Classic EP90 for the gearbox?
ST90? EP attacks the brass bits inside Lancia gearboxs IIRC. |
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
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1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #582 on: 11 February, 2019, 10:50:39 AM » |
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Hi Lancialulu
Confusion reigns this is from the workshop manual
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« Reply #583 on: 11 February, 2019, 11:00:51 AM » |
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and this is from a S3 user manual
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« Reply #584 on: 11 February, 2019, 12:35:33 PM » |
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and this is from a S3 user manual
EP90 seems ok then. At least it is readily available. From an online article GL4 spec seems to be the oil for Brass Syncronisers https://www.widman.biz/uploads/Transaxle_oil.pdf |
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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