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« Reply #45 on: 09 December, 2015, 01:41:59 PM » |
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3 Months on and MOT with no advisories so "Shades" now legal!!
Loving the drive of her and getting used to Transit size holes to leave while going down the road!!!
Proprietorial gratuitous photo of vhb (very happy bunny).
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #46 on: 09 December, 2015, 01:54:19 PM » |
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Well done, wishing you many happy, exciting miles - next we want a video of it hurtling down your local high street!!!
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« Reply #47 on: 09 December, 2015, 01:58:48 PM » |
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Well done, wishing you many happy, exciting miles - next we want a video of it hurtling down your local high street!!!
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1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #48 on: 09 December, 2015, 02:40:57 PM » |
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Fantastic .......
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« Reply #49 on: 09 December, 2015, 02:52:34 PM » |
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Great! You will have fun with that.
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« Reply #50 on: 09 December, 2015, 03:01:28 PM » |
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Congratulations. But when you have finished gloating we want to see a full suite of photos....
Frank T
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« Reply #51 on: 09 December, 2015, 03:39:20 PM » |
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Congratulations. But when you have finished gloating we want to see a full suite of photos....
Frank T
car back in garage after inaugural drive out...omg it is twitchy at above eh hem mph so am now going to check (but dont know the spec for this suspension setup) tracking 1-2deg toe in at front??? Also got a xmas present of camber castor tool, but that will have to wait till 25/12😤 I did do a cursory check of the speedo against gps and was quite pleasantly surprised in the brief glaces I made, just c5% optimistic. The tacho however is out by 33% as it was setup up originally with the Beta volumex and now has Alfa 12v... |
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #52 on: 09 December, 2015, 04:58:08 PM » |
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Stunning Tim, Can't wait for Sarah gets her hands on it  Brian 8227  |
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« Reply #53 on: 10 December, 2015, 10:29:49 AM » |
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Looks gorgeous Tim. As far as twitchy handling is concerned I'm sure you read the Viva Lancia article last month about the shock the new owner of a Stratos got when driving his. Turned out there's a bit of a design flaw with the pick up points? I'm typing this from memory so may be wrong. Anyway, maybe the article might point you in the right direction.
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« Reply #54 on: 10 December, 2015, 11:12:19 AM » |
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Thanks Stan.
I reread this on your prompting and there is barely enough there and concentrates on a design flaw at the rear. My car has a Hawkridge design up rated 131 (I think) basis. At the moment I am concentrating on the front. The tyres I have were recommended by Gerry Hawk and Longstones so as they are new and sticky (unlike I suspect M Leone's first set of tyres) I am concentrating on geometry to get some high speed stability. It goes in a straight line fine but as the yanks would say in Nascar it feels very loose. So far I have found it has sufficient toe -in (so I am not going to put any more on there) but I need to resolve cambe and more importantly castor which the factory spec is 4 degrees which is high but contributes to high speed stability. Time will tell if I can measure this or resort to having it done in a shop....
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #55 on: 10 December, 2015, 06:18:09 PM » |
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Tim, I'm no Adrian Newey but looking at a model Stratos I have beside me I can't help thinking that with the constant curve from nose to tail and a flat underside you are looking at a cross section of a wing. With the large spoiler at the back and the engine also there do you think it is developing lift at speed make the front feel 'loose'? I've noticed that the model, which is a highly detailed Alitalia version hasn't a chin spoiler. Has anything of this kind ever been mentioned with regards to the Stratos? Do you think a chin spoiler might add some stability?
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« Reply #56 on: 10 December, 2015, 07:42:59 PM » |
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Hi Stan aerodynamic lift was also postulated in the yellow peril article and ultimately dismissed. I think Bertone got the design right and obviously used wind tunnel modelling for his ideas. As the Stratos in circuit racing (Tour de France et al in 1973 etc) with only minor aero mods it seems to cope with high speed. I have to clarify my car was still able to track a straight line with no steering input at quite reasonable speeds but would dart off line if you sneezed...
Am ploughing through the front end geometry so next week will report back next week after sorting out baseline adjustments.
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #57 on: 11 December, 2015, 01:06:40 PM » |
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The Stratos was designed and built for rallying and I always understood its' propensity for changing direction at the slightest excuse was a deliberate design feature. Perhaps you would have to compare it with other Stratos owners experience to assess how abnormal the handling is.
Frank T
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« Reply #58 on: 11 December, 2015, 01:28:58 PM » |
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It's propensity to change directions rapidly is a function of it's (extremely) short wheelbase. They all do that Sir!
As for feeling twitchy that's usually down to a combination of too high tyre pressure, poor geometry set up (and there are lots of variations/views out there) and worn suspension components.
Once you've dialled it all in they are a joy to drive but, like any mid engined car, you have to watch it approaching the limit (which is unlikely on the road) as lift off oversteer is rarely caught.
Guy (on the road for 25 years in a replica now...)
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« Reply #59 on: 11 December, 2015, 03:52:28 PM » |
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One of the best quotes from Richard Hammond about the Stratos - 'It changes direction like a frightened mouse'.
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