Report on (slow) S2 Coupe rebuild progress

[nthomas1]

With regard to the bonnet badge I can only speak for the Series 2.  There are 2 locating pins on the rear of the badge which are not threaded. They pass through two holes in the bonnet which are visible from beneath.  I assume adhesive is applied to the rear of the badge.  I've just loose-fitted mine for the moment so it's being held there by gravity!

[lancialulu]

No adhesive. Use something like these badge fastners....

http://www.tri-corengland.com/acatalog/82-4317-Spire-Nut-82_4317.html#SID=34

[fay66]

Might I suggest you look at Vauxhall badge fixings from that period, until a lot later date than that, we used tiny hollow plastic inserts that the fixing pins slotted into and in the process expanded the insert that then firmly held the badge in place.
I suspect that Lancia/Fiat used something similar.
Brian
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[frankxhv773t]

Brian, that sounds very like Y10 tailgate badge fasteners.

[the.cern]

I think I would be inclined to go with Tim's suggestion. I think those fixings are also known as star washers!!

Good luck!!

               Andy

[stanley sweet]

Hmm. Must check again. I was sure when I look under my bonnet there's no access at all to the back of the badge.

[fay66]

Hmm. Must check again. I was sure when I look under my bonnet there's no access at all to the back of the badge.

Stan, they were blind and put it from the topside with a slight shoulder, so no access required from behind.
If I've still got one in my old tool box I'll post a photo.
Brian
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[lancialulu]

I know my S2 bonnet had the hole in the under skin to fit the top fixing as per Norm's photo.... This gives access to push on star lock (correct name...) washer

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8mm-x-18mm-Internal-Tooth-Starlock-Star-Lock-Locking-Washers-10PCS-/302151316498   (check size although by definition these washers can be persuaded to fit similar post diameters)

Brian there was no plastic insert here. Fulvia badges used the star lock for the rear badges as well. I think those plastic ones came later with Delta?

[frankxhv773t]

The star lock washer does sound more appropriate to period. They can be pushed on with a suitably sized socket and extension bar.

[fay66]

I know my S2 bonnet had the hole in the under skin to fit the top fixing as per Norm's photo.... This gives access to push on star lock (correct name...) washer

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8mm-x-18mm-Internal-Tooth-Starlock-Star-Lock-Locking-Washers-10PCS-/302151316498   (check size although by definition these washers can be persuaded to fit similar post diameters)

Brian there was no plastic insert here. Fulvia badges used the star lock for the rear badges as well. I think those plastic ones came later with Delta?

I thought originally the thought was there was no access from the underside of the bonnet, hence my suggestion of a blind fixing, if using star washer I'd be inclined to use some sort of sealant to stop the wet seeping in from under the emblem, assuming there's no gasket.
Brian
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[stanley sweet]

Brian, I think I caused the confusion by saying there wasn't any access to the badge under the bonnet. That was my memory playing tricks. Just had a look. The front leg is hidden by the bonnet frame but the leg nearer the windscreen does protrude through the butterfly shaped piece of metal in Norman's photo. What has puzzled me though is that on mine there isn't anything securing that leg. It's fixed solidly though. Could be someone put some silicone behind it although the badge is absolutely flush to the surface of the bonnet.

[lancialulu]

My bonnet was an aluminium bonnet but without the 4 mounting holes for the S1 SS trim. I might have drilled through the top hole and increased that hole from the underside (cant remember as it was over a decade ago....). I definitely used star lock washers though... and no sealant (as it was ali.....).

[stanley sweet]

My one is aluminium. I think my badge is held on by forces not yet discovered by Mankind.

[nthomas1]

Thank you all for your comments and suggestions about the bonnet badge.  Mine is quite a tight fit so I think I'll use a dab of clear silicon on each hole/post to stop water ingress, and add the clips that Tim has suggested.

The main purpose of my original post on this topic was to ask about the seals at either side of the bonnet and boot. I'm trying to keep my car as original as possible but am puzzled as to why nobody seems to have these strips on their car.  Is it possible that they were present on early Series 1 cars and then deleted?   Stanley suggested narrow U-section rubber if I was keen to have them, but I'm trying to determine whether they were normal fitment before I go any further in trying to find an equivalent.   Here's my wording from the earlier post, and a couple of better extracts from the TAV diagrams

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While checking the TAV, I noticed that there are seal strips shown at the side of the bonnet. They are TAV code 56 and are described as “copribordo per cofano” (literally: edge covering), or “moulding” in the English language column.  I’m puzzled by these as I don’t recall ever seeing anything like them on a Fulvia  with the exception of a single photograph of a Sport that had rubber seals over the two engine bay side edges.   I’ve scoured all of the engine bay pictures in my files but can’t see anything like these on a Coupe.  Can anybody shed any light on what they are and where they fit?

Similarly, the boot page in the TAV shows something similar: TAV code 55, listed as “capribordo p.sportello baule”, and in the English column “trim”.  Again, does anybody know where these fit?  
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Finally, does anybody have the two rubber seals from the leading edge of the bonnet that they'd like to sell - TAV item 19, and associated retaining strip 30?

[Jaydub]

Hi Norm
Sorry to hijack your thread but how come you have descriptions of the parts in your TAV (even though they`re in Italian) The one I got from Omicron, Yellow cover, Fulvia 2nd Series is as much use as a chocolate fireguard! It has no part numbers and no descriptions. The same goes for the Orange repair manual. Nothing concerning 1600HF. Total waste of money! Is there any decent information anywhere?