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« Reply #210 on: 28 April, 2019, 08:39:45 PM » |
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Stan - the idea is to fill the space behind the bearing with bread and then compress it using the bolt. You tap the end of the bolt with a reasonably sized hammer and it pushes the bearing out. It is necessary to repack the bread a couple of times
Re rivets, you are absolutely correct, they don't like screwed on plates, but I've never (so far) been stopped. I have previously put false rivets in the plates so it looks correct whilst retaining the original setup
Grease will do the same job as the bread, and it doesn't have to be French or English grease, Any old grease will do👍 Brian 8227  |
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« Reply #211 on: 29 April, 2019, 08:30:36 AM » |
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Just don't try bread in your grease gun  Mike |
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« Reply #212 on: 29 April, 2019, 09:37:19 AM » |
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Stan - the idea is to fill the space behind the bearing with bread and then compress it using the bolt. You tap the end of the bolt with a reasonably sized hammer and it pushes the bearing out. It is necessary to repack the bread a couple of times
Re rivets, you are absolutely correct, they don't like screwed on plates, but I've never (so far) been stopped. I have previously put false rivets in the plates so it looks correct whilst retaining the original setup
That is ingenious. You would have made a good SOE agent. Stopped and found to be only carrying a baguette, then destroy a vital piece of equipment. |
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« Reply #213 on: 29 April, 2019, 05:40:42 PM » |
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It really does work .... due to do the "proper" one tomorrow
As an aside, does anyone want to see the Fulvia engine rebuild ? I can post as I go along. Lots of people know about Fulvia engines so may not be that interesting !
The machining work has been done, so it is more about re-assembling
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« Reply #214 on: 29 April, 2019, 06:41:16 PM » |
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Please post the engine rebuild details. Should be of interest.
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« Reply #215 on: 29 April, 2019, 06:59:54 PM » |
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Yes please! Be great to see how it goes together.
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« Reply #216 on: 29 April, 2019, 07:23:58 PM » |
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Yes please Simon, as I've never actually had to work on a Fulvia engine. Brian 8227 |
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« Reply #217 on: 30 April, 2019, 08:56:00 AM » |
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Just noticed colour discussions. Rosso York is almost exactly the same as Rosso Nearco which is a currently available colour and looks very nice on my Sport.
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« Reply #218 on: 30 April, 2019, 10:10:57 AM » |
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Just noticed colour discussions. Rosso York is almost exactly the same as Rosso Nearco which is a currently available colour and looks very nice on my Sport.
My Lancia Gamma is Rosso Nearco (orginal paint) and it is much brighter the York...... |
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
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1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #219 on: 30 April, 2019, 04:25:20 PM » |
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Perhaps it depends on who makes the paint!
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« Reply #220 on: 30 April, 2019, 05:52:44 PM » |
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Perhaps it depends on who makes the paint!
Correct.... Mine was factory DuPont as stated on the paint label in the Gamma Boot lid! I have seen a slightly darker Rosso Nearco on another Gamma that had been repainted. Still no where near York IMHO. |
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Its not the winning but taking part! or is it taking apart?
Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #221 on: 01 May, 2019, 05:48:54 PM » |
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As promised....
First job was to clean everything and then painted the block, oil pump, pulley etc. This always takes an age - at least 2 days and I haven't finished it all yet
Started with the crankcase. All the bits are shown in the 1st photo. I "plastigaged" the crank because I didn't do the machining and wanted to check it was correct. NB when fitting the crank, one of the thrust washers is shown incorrectly on the TAV, the grooves need to be facing out, not towards the bearing cap
1600 engines differ from 1300's at the bottom end - as well as larger crank journals, the crank is held in place with studs and not bolts. Otherwise everything is pretty similar
All the 1600 engines I have seen are painted yellow under the engine mounting - why ?? I repainted it anyway
All new gaskets , fitted with hermetite and new crank seals. I use the old ones to tap in the new ones.
The eagle-eyed amongst you will have noticed a flange on the rear oil seal, a "speedy-seal" has been fitted in the past.
Finally a couple of photos of the completed crank case , front and back. The front shows the oil pump on the RHS and the petrol pump mounting on the LHS, both driven off a gear on the front of the crank (nb photo shows it the wrong way round !)
Next flywheels .....
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« Reply #222 on: 01 May, 2019, 06:06:50 PM » |
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I have heard some people fasten the crankcase to the block before proceeding
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« Reply #223 on: 01 May, 2019, 06:40:30 PM » |
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You will have it running in the car tomorrow!
Numbers on conrods face exhaust side....
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Lancias:
1955 Aurelia B12
1967 Fulvia 1.3HFR
1972 Fulvia 1600HF
1972 Fulvia Sport 1600
1983 HPE VX
1988 Delta 1.6GTie
1998 Zeta 21. 12v
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« Reply #224 on: 02 May, 2019, 04:13:24 PM » |
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Thanks Tim - all in place.
A couple of photos from today:
Flywheels - I have 3 different weights, the standard 7kg a lightened 6kg and a paper doily that weighs a mere 3.2kgs. It's not intended to be a race engine so planning to fit the 6kg. I have heard that the super-light will not tick over below 1100 rpm
First jobs - cleaning the head-bolt threads on the block and gapping the piston rings
Ready to go .....
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